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    Look at the size of the centre console - that's either a wide car or it has narrow seats!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SV8Predator View Post
    This is low rent? You obviously drive a Bentley as your day-to-day!

    Absolutely hate stuck on tablet looking infotainment screens. It's very Mercedes in there. Kia quality isn't great from what I've driven in the past, we have two Kia Cee'd estates at work, forgetful bland things but do the job.

    Interesting that there is no diesel option when it goes on sale.

    The XE 2.0T actually starts from £27k so the Kia isn't actually cheap either.
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    I think Kia have found a niche in the market for relatively cheap cars that do as they are required backed by a good warranty and service package,
    this is I think the image that they have amongst consumers, the problem comes when you attempt to upscale that image into a Premier Brand.
    Perhaps one of the best examples of this was Volkswagen with their Phaeton which was a good enough car, but it looked too much like the Passat
    and few company chairman in any case were going to park a Volkswagen in their parking space at work.Volkswagen realised this of course when
    they purchased Bentley.This latest Kia reminds me of the Lexus ISF and I speak from memory when I quote the model name,but this was supposed
    to challenge the BMW M3 and failed. That said however I am with SV8 regarding the interior, it looks ok to me, its the "pumped up on steroids" exterior
    that I find challenging

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willber G View Post
    Look at the size of the centre console - that's either a wide car or it has narrow seats!
    Narrow seats Willber similar to the girlfriends VRS Octavia which is a bit of a shock when you go from the XK,
    though not uncomfortable

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    Not for me. The body stylists are in the wrong job, IMO the rear end is straight from the Nissan 'Joke' styling dept. And those pedals........I brake with my left foot and it looks as thought it would be a bit of a lucky dip getting my foot off that large foot rest and on to the small brake pedal. No, not for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reddiesel View Post
    I think Kia have found a niche in the market for relatively cheap cars that do as they are required backed by a good warranty and service package, this is I think the image that they have amongst consumers, the problem comes when you attempt to upscale that image into a Premier Brand.
    Perhaps one of the best examples of this was Volkswagen with their Phaeton which was a good enough car, but it looked too much like the Passat
    and few company chairman in any case were going to park a Volkswagen in their parking space at work.............
    Two reasons why Volkswagen brought out the Phaeton was that first they were miffed with Mercedes' subcompact A class trying to steal what they considered was their market and secondly, so they could experiment with certain components and modifications knowing that few customers would suffer any inconvenience (which of course would be immediately rectified) before releasing them on the much wider Golf market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero123 View Post
    Two reasons why Volkswagen brought out the Phaeton was that first they were miffed with Mercedes' subcompact A class trying to steal what they considered was their market and secondly, so they could experiment with certain components and modifications knowing that few customers would suffer any inconvenience (which of course would be immediately rectified) before releasing them on the much wider Golf market.
    And here was me thinking along with the Motoring Press that the Phaeton was an attempt by Volkswagen to break into
    the Luxury Car Market ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reddiesel View Post
    And here was me thinking along with the Motoring Press that the Phaeton was an attempt by Volkswagen to break into
    the Luxury Car Market ?
    As you said, company chairmen would never consider a Volkswagen instead of a Mercedes or BMW............and besides, £60k for a VW? I don't think so........
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    They do it for less. Probably built on tried and tested designs. Good looks, good price, probably a good fit for company vehicles and families. The Ford Fiesta was a top seller in the UK in 2016 with Focus and Corsa. KIA are brave to move up market, so good luck to them.
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