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    JEC monthly rag and another rust rant

    It’s only a matter of time before I buy an F type. It’ll be second hand. However, as a member of the JEC I receive their magazine each month. For several issues now they’ve gone to town on issues of rusting beams in the chassis, cheap and thin underbody paint etc. Reminiscent of a Lancia fer pete’s sake. But in this forum, not a mention of it. What’s going on?
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    As I have said before, much more F-Type action over on the Yank forum: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f-type-x152-72/
    And yes, some mention there of F-Types with underbody/chassis surface rust, from memory only really in areas with highly salted roads.
    But only very few mentions despite hundreds of F-Type owners posting on that forum so I really doubt it is a serious problem.
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    Possibly the most informative thread on the Yank forum about F-Type rust: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...ht=F-Type+rust
    And it does seem to be a known problem on Euro F-Types driven in winter on salted roads.
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    Thanks for that. A Jag dealer, Harwoods, in the U.K. has a 6 year corrosion warranty (which must be a Jaguar warranty) and would cover every F type they’ve ever sold.

    In the U.K. when my car gets serviced they give you a video of the underside and as I never noticed any rust before I looked again and there isn’t any. That’s on a near 100,000km XKR.
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    There certainly seems to be a problem with some cars with rusting of the front subframe, and there have been some owners reporting this since the issue was raised by the F-type coordinator in the JEC magazine who reported his own car as rusting badly.
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    Based on past experience I would wager a bet that Jaguar say the 6 year warranty does not cover this as it only covers rusting through of the bodywork from the inside-out and does cover surface rust caused by impact damage.
    They will argue it is caused by stone chips so not covered under warranty.
    Some years ago my S Type R had some bubbling under the paint at the top of the drivers door where it was covered by the widow trim - Jaguar tried to say it was caused by stone chips- despite it being in a place protected by the door-mirror and window trim - they only backed down after I offered to post pictures and their correspondence on social media….
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    The F type rust on the subframe and other areas is down to the JLR cost cutting on their component suppliers so that quality is compromised. The rust issue is bad enough but the correspondence from the Jaguar customer relation centre to the customer published in the JEC magazine is disgraceful,dismissive ,patronising and typical of the way that they now treat buyers of their products. Sir William Lyons would turn in his grave if he knew what his old company had become.
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    Apparently Jaguar have now confirmed the problem is down to "insufficient zinc-nickel plating on current components" (JEC magazine Jan 2019).
    They are replacing 3 rear underbody braces if they show sings of rust.
    So well done JEC for bring this to Jaguars attention and well done Jaguar for (belatedly) for doing something about it.

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    The mag that I read had steel made by Tata in India as the problem. Hysterical nonsense in my view.
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    Hi All,


    New to the forum; just thought I'd post my experience with this particular issue.


    5 weeks ago around 12th March, my 13 plate V8S convertible under extended warranty, went in for a service (+ repair of the driver's seat which was loose and faulty steering wheel controls) at Inchcape Guildford.


    I informed them I was concerned about the rust on the underside of the vehicle and also at that point notified them of the bulletin regarding this, which I'm sure they were already aware of. Initially, the dealership very quickly mentioned that there was significant rust to the rear subframe and also the braces after their own technicians looked into it.


    My car had then been passed to a third party (approved retailer) without my knowledge to inspect the problem and advise. During these weeks, i've had various emails all of the same nature to say that it's with Jaguar Goodwill department and due to all the "paperwork" they have had to send numerous photos. They also asked me all of the absurd questions which another user mentioned above.


    After numerous conversations, both the dealership and the independent approved bodywork shop have explicitly stated that the rear subframe must be replaced and not repaired as the rust will simply continue to corrode thereafter and also that it would be a safety issue.


    Inchcape Guildford finally came back to me today via email to say that Goodwill have advised to replace the braces and not to replace the subframe but to "repair" it - ie. de-rust and treat it. In the latest email, the dealer have even said that they will not be able to complete Jaguar's suggested repair works as they can't do it in-house and the approved bodyshop has outright refused to do it. Not only that, they have essentially parred me off now to say I should call Jaguar directly myself.


    I have done so after also tweeting them and they have been less than helpful and just reiterated what they've already said, despite very clearly explaining to them that their own dealership and an independent body have both stated that it is not suitable for repair and is a safety issue.


    I am quite literally lost for words on this now and I'm not sure on the best route to take to get it replaced... any advice?!

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