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    2 weeks with my XK

    So I've been the proud owner of a black 2011 XK Portfolio Coupe with ivory seats now for nearly 2 weeks. I've managed to add 1200 miles to the clock already, but on the plus side she tells me its at 26 mpg - which I'm struggling to believe as I've spent most of the time going quite fast and listening to the exhaust which I love! It was originally spec'd with a quad performance exhaust, 20" wheels, the performance red brakes, black pack and no badges, so from many angles apart from the bonnet and close up with the wheels it looks like an XKR! I think I picked up an absolute bargain with this car and so far am very, very pleased with it. As well as the sound I am really addicted to the cooled seats now too!

    Over the late summer I travelled all over the country looking at various XKs, including XKRs and convertibles. I really wasn't sure what version I wanted!! I found a stunning low mileage 2012 convertible XKR in dark blue in Taunton but was too slow getting back to the dealer as it was early days in my search and by the time I was ready, it had gone. I also really loved the look of a 2012 XK Artisan model with blue seats and blue leather headlining. Ultimately I went with what turned out to be by far the cheapest car on my shortlist, but one that had been looked after, looked almost new inside and
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    actually drove and sounded the best (better I thought than the 2 XKRs I tested).

    Anyway there are a few things I'd appreciate other folks guidance or wisdom on please:

    1. Tyres. It has 4 almost new Pirellis, but the rear ones seem wider than the standard and are 295/30/20 rather than the 285/30/20. I've seen in other forums that this is not uncommon, but surely to get the right diameter the profile should be lower? Also I'm sure on some road dips the tyres do hit the body briefly, I think the plastic trims in the rear arches. They grip well, I've hammered it round some bends in the dry and more tentatively in the wet and so far its not slipped out at all. is the sizing ok or should I replace them with 285s?

    2. Battery. In the dealers the battery had gone flat, its a Yuasa Black which I think is no longer produced and I think is 2/3 years old (I cant find a date on it). I think the car had been standing there for nearly 6 months, hence the battery drain. It is charged now and as the car already had a CTEK indicator socket in the boot, I used a CTEK unit to run a testing conditioning cycle and it seems ok on the face of it. However, the traffic lights in the CTEK adaptor ,even though green when I park up, soon go amber or red if I open the boot for long or do anything other than start the car. Also if I am sitting playing music with the engine off (not a common thing) I soon get a low battery warning message and it switches off in 3 minutes. My question is this level of battery drain normal? I'm planning t get the battery properly tested when I get it serviced.

    3. Parking sensors. These only seem to work intermittently, one time out of 3 and on the other times the display sometimes shows a refer to dealer error or nothing at all. I cant seem to locate any obvious problems, but also have no idea where the control unit is! any ideas? However the car also has a rear camera which I think a previous owner had reconnected to a small front dash cam (that I only found the other day) which is also still in situ, but doesn't seem to have a control unit I can locate. I'm going to find a specialist to look at the camera to see if I can either make it work as I like the idea of a hidden dashcam, or get it disconnected as this could be causing my battery drain.

    3. Rattling noise. when I'm driving there is a faint rattle from behind my right ear. I hasten to add its not me rattling, but the car! Its coming from either my door window or rear passenger window or the panel under that, but I cant for the life of me locate it precisely whilst driving and cant face trying to sit in the back 'seat' to try. I notice that if I lower the driver window moderately it does seem to disappear, but with the wind noise I'm not certain. obviously I'm not expecting this to be diagnosed here, but wondered if anyone has experienced this and can suggest anything. Nothing seems loose and id rather not take the door trim off, just yet. Its a coupe btw.

    4. Servicing. I've managed to just trip over 70k on the clock now. Even though the car was allegedly serviced by the dealership, the last stamp in the book is 2017 so I plan to get it done in the next couple of weeks. I want to use an recommended independent Jag service centre and wondered if it was appropriate to get suggestions here? I don't want to break any forum rules, but 2 I am considering are Nene Jags in Peterborough or E&E Services in Milton Keynes; I am midway between both and wondered if anyone had any recommendations in this area?


    Sorry for the long post and so many questions on one thread; I will try and pay back with more posts as I get used to the car.

    Thank you in advance for reading this and more so if you reply!
    Current Car: 2011 XK 5.0

    Previous Cars:
    2002 X Type, 1967 MGB GT, 1982 Rover SD1 Vitesse, 1975 MGB, 1984 Mini 25, 1973 Mini
    2017 BMM 530e, 2014 BMW 328, 2010 Audi A5, 2009 VW Touareg, 2006 Audi A6, 2000 Land Rover Discovery, 1997 Merc C Class, 1993 Volvo 480

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    Like you I've had mine for 2 weeks tomorrow, I also travelled around a fair bit (Newcastle/Brum/Manchester and Wigan) to view 5 in total

    Ended up getting a 2014 XK Dynamic R...weirdly in white...although originally wanted blue, then black.

    So let's see some pics of your P&J?

    Here's mine, it was the interior that sold it for me and unlike you I really can't do ivory leather (although yours benefits from cooled seats where mine doesn't) my way of thinking is in 35yrs of driving I've never sweated in a car

    Tyres - mine had the stock PZ's with 7mm on the rear and horrendous budgets (??) on the front, I immediately changed to Michelin Pilot Sport 4s's and the driving experience is 300% better, also had a full alignment done using the 'alignmycar' website...cost for this was £105.

    If it has a staggered set of 20" alloys with 10" or 10.5" alloys then 295 on the rear is the correct size and shouldn't present a problem, in fact almost purchased some XK-RS GT alloys with...wait for it 305's on the rear...THAT is a whole lot of tyre!
    2014 XK Dynamic R
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    Thanks MarkyM.

    That's a lovely looking car; I like the colour transition you went through to get to a white car! I wanted dark blue, but so few around so I stuck with black. I did sit in a Dynamic R in one of the dealers I visited this summer and started it up; a bit out of my budget right now, but maybe next time...…..

    I had meant to take photos at the weekend, but the rain made it rather difficult; will post some asap though. The dealer ones I thought I'd saved were only a link so have disappeared.

    Re the seats, most of those I saw in black looked too warn, generally the lighter ones looked in better condition which I wasn't expecting. The ivory ones in mine looked almost new, hardly any creases. Re the cooling its not something I'd ever considered or would have spec'd before; but this summer in the heat on a long drive they would have been useful! a couple of times in the summer this year I got out of my previous car and my back was dripping...….

    Thanks for the guidance on the tyres, will check the rim widths (or ask when its serviced). Yes 305s would be monsters. Luckily for me all 4 have plenty of tread and they are all the same Pirellis.
    Current Car: 2011 XK 5.0

    Previous Cars:
    2002 X Type, 1967 MGB GT, 1982 Rover SD1 Vitesse, 1975 MGB, 1984 Mini 25, 1973 Mini
    2017 BMM 530e, 2014 BMW 328, 2010 Audi A5, 2009 VW Touareg, 2006 Audi A6, 2000 Land Rover Discovery, 1997 Merc C Class, 1993 Volvo 480

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    MarkyM - just looking at your photo has reminded me that I looked at a nice XK Artisan at Phantom Motors in Wigan when I was searching for my car as well. That day I drove around 700 miles visiting 5 dealers; it was one of those days I'd have liked my new cooled seats!
    Current Car: 2011 XK 5.0

    Previous Cars:
    2002 X Type, 1967 MGB GT, 1982 Rover SD1 Vitesse, 1975 MGB, 1984 Mini 25, 1973 Mini
    2017 BMM 530e, 2014 BMW 328, 2010 Audi A5, 2009 VW Touareg, 2006 Audi A6, 2000 Land Rover Discovery, 1997 Merc C Class, 1993 Volvo 480

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    Found an image form the dealers I'd put on my phone.
    More at the weekend.
    Current Car: 2011 XK 5.0

    Previous Cars:
    2002 X Type, 1967 MGB GT, 1982 Rover SD1 Vitesse, 1975 MGB, 1984 Mini 25, 1973 Mini
    2017 BMM 530e, 2014 BMW 328, 2010 Audi A5, 2009 VW Touareg, 2006 Audi A6, 2000 Land Rover Discovery, 1997 Merc C Class, 1993 Volvo 480

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    Quote Originally Posted by joc64 View Post
    MarkyM - just looking at your photo has reminded me that I looked at a nice XK Artisan at Phantom Motors in Wigan when I was searching for my car as well. That day I drove around 700 miles visiting 5 dealers; it was one of those days I'd have liked my new cooled seats!
    Phantom were a weird company to deal with

    I was a cash buyer, no px and no finance needed, I was interested in a white car that appealed to 15-30yr olds that could never afford the car let alone insurance. Plus they'd just been through a new reg in Sept and had the car since July. No one would be buying it until next spring when it would be 5+yrs old

    But They wouldn't budge on price, I was lucky to get a service, MOT a full tank of fuel and free delivery, then I saw the finance agreement from their stocking policy and they;d paid £29k for it, so actually a bit of a bargain at £32.5k

    Notice you owned a 75 MGB, I had a 69 MGC at the age of 17...what a car...made me think...that was Antique White...so this isn't my first!
    2014 XK Dynamic R
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    I was in the same position as a cash buyer but still found most of the dealers wouldn’t budge on price.....but £32.5 for yours was pretty a good deal I think. I’d seen some Dynamic prices starting with a 4. I was looking to spend £25 ish but couldn’t believe when I found this one advertised south of £20k; I’m keeping the change for other things, and possibly a set of winter tyres.

    MGC at 17, that would have been fun. I had a mini at 17 and got the MGB a few years later. Strangely mine was black and I’m back to black now! Kept it for ages and even bought the Rover to possibly donate it’s V8, but never got round to it as the Vitesse was more fun to drive. More recently I had a 1967 B in Racing green but didn’t keep it that long as I got tired of constantly having to fix it and ran out of patience.

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    I looked at the artisan there as well, in fact I believe it always pays to show interest in one car when you really want another, that way the salesman thinks he's done an upsell

    But I like you wanted quad pipes, also black grills/black pack, bodykit with more aggressive stance and given at 53 my insurance between the 2 was a mere £70 (£320-£390) I decided to just go with an R

    Yes back in 82 my insurance on the MGC was £749 3rd party...with no Fire and theft!! Also had a mini clubman...what an easy car to work on and brilliant on snow/ice, shame it was 'antique gold' which looked a horrible green to me...still miss it though!
    2014 XK Dynamic R
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    Of the points highlighted, tyres are the only ones really in my domain.

    Regarding diameter, or rolling diameter to be more accurate. The only way to establish this is with the tyre manufacturer's figures - and these will be measured, rather than calculated. Tyres are only a semi-logical thing and as such attempting to forecast the rolling radius is something that tyre manufacturers themselves can't even do, with the result that the only reliable figures are measured ones. When attempting to compare, obtain the manufacturers figures from their website - you're looking for the "wheel revs per mile", the rolling radius or at a push, the "static laden radius".

    As a counterpoint to this, I have seen tyre manufacturer's offerings to motor manufacturers differ by 5% in a tyre which should be otherwise identical and for the tyre manufacturer to be at a loss to understand why. The same size tyre from different manufacturers is only going to have the same radius by accident. All of the "web-based tyre calculators" vary from wrong to wildly inaccurate.

    Also with tyres, its your choice to buy the tyre that suits your usage. I certainly wouldn't dismiss budget brands if they fit your needs. On my Jaguar, I have had at times both "cheap and black" and PZeros on it and if I'm honest, there isn't much of a difference unless I have one type at one end and a different one at the other - indeed, its probably more controllable the cheaper the tyre gets. I should also qualify here - I am a vehicle designer and test-driver by trade, with many, many hours testing tyres on both road, test track and racing circuits.

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    BMC had some horrible colours back then, my first mini was flame red, but that was code for orange! But at least it wasn’t the allegro brown!

    My insurance, also at 53, is a bit more than that; but only myself to blame as I’m sitting in 9 points thanks to getting caught with the smart cameras on the M1 that despite the popular myth that they only live when restrictions are in place, are on 24/7 so I got 6 points and a £1500 fine😳

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