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    Rubbish brand tyre? Premium tyres tend not to do this, assuming the fitter fitted it in the correct place on the wheel (thats what the dots are all for).

    A/C, no point regassing, clearly it has a hole (the pressure test they do as part of teh automated regas cycle will only find the most catastrophic of holes). Hopefully the last place put in a dye (if not, they are complete retards for regassing a newish car that had insufficient gas left in it, and you might have some comeback on that), so the leak should be visible with a UV light.
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    Yeah the dealer put dye in this time. I only take this car to the main dealer for anything, except today's balancing because they told me to take it to a specialist after refusing to even test it at 74mph to see the vibration...

    I've got a report here stating TWO of the tyres are defective and should be replaced. The alloys are fine (one brand new) but the tyres simply aren't possible to balance, front and rear on one side.

    These are pirelli pzero which were supplied and fitted by the dealer at Christmas. Did a bit of searching and this is .. not unknown with pirelli... I wish I'd remembered to tell them I wanted Michelin or continental at the time, they'd already fitted them by the time I remembered.

    Pirelli being awful has dogged me across 2 jags so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by system11 View Post
    Yeah the dealer put dye in this time.

    I've got a report here stating TWO of the tyres are defective and should be replaced. The alloys are fine (one brand new) but the tyres simply aren't possible to balance, front and rear on one side.

    These are pirelli pzero which were supplied and fitted by the dealer at Christmas. Did a bit of searching and this is .. not unknown with pirelli... I wish I'd remembered to tell them I wanted Michelin or continental at the time, they'd already fitted them by the time I remembered.

    Pirelli being awful has dogged me across 2 jags so far.
    Hey there system11

    Have you considered challenging firstly the dealership and or / if necessary trying Pirelli on this issue?

    2 large rear tyres for these cars aren't cheap, after just 4 months of use and presumably not a million miles ( no damage etc ? ) and in otherwise decent shape, I know I wouldn't be happy to pay out my own pocket if I didn't have too.

    Has to be worth asking the question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimC64 View Post
    Hey there system11

    Have you considered challenging firstly the dealership and or / if necessary trying Pirelli on this issue?

    2 large rear tyres for these cars aren't cheap, after just 4 months of use and presumably not a million miles ( no damage etc ? ) and in otherwise decent shape, I know I wouldn't be happy to pay out my own pocket if I didn't have too.

    Has to be worth asking the question?

    Cheers
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    I'm going to be asking them to replace under warranty - apparently tyres do come with warranties and I've been complaining about the vibration ever since they were fitted. NSF and NSR are both absolute rubbish - the machine measures the force of tyre in nm, within 90 is considered a pass. My NSR and NSF measured over 170 and are still 140/160 after the tyre shop spent 25 minutes on each trying to improve them. OSF is 70 and OSR was 115 but brought to 85. They say both alloys are fine, in fact the worst tyre is on the brand new alloy I bought after the pot hole incident.

    So this along with Jaguar dealer -refusing- to take a second look at the sunroof and -refusing- to drive the car to 74 to see the shake themselves (and even refusing to allow me to drive their tech at 74), and now repeated aircon issues are honestly souring the ownership experience a lot. The shaking is the worst, it feels like driving over a very tiny cattle grid at 74. There's no pulling wobble on the steering at all, it's all 'vertical'. What with that and the selling dealer having failed to make a note of what service they did causing me to have to fork out for an unexpected service, as much as I'd like to just get rid of the Pirellis completely I just can't afford it. The ones on my S-Type R were magnetically attracted to lorry ruts and vibrated, had them put Continentals on and the car was 100% fixed, just like that.

    This year has been rough (generally) - I've started using the salvage repair Fiat for anything other than long journeys because I'm so tired of dealing with the dealer and the niggles they can't/won't fix. I even wondered if it's possible to just return or exchange the car somehow, even if it involves a minimal loss.
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    Crikey - you have had some bad luck... I hope they replace those tyres for free, they ruddy well should do!

    The dealers are not showering themselves in glory in a lot of the posts I read lately. Sadly it mirrors my own experience with them, and its why I never use them myself (I guess that's not an option on a new or nearly new car though).

    I wish you the very best of luck with them, I hope they change their attitude. Perhaps a polite and constructive letter of complaint might help?
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    Previous cars: '91 Peugeot 405 1.9GRi, '93 BMW 520i, '92 XJ 4.0 Sov, '94 XJ 4.0 Sov, '00 XJ 4.0 Sov, '00 Daimler V8, '03 XJ Super V8, '94 Renault Clio(!), '99 Merc S430L V8, '08 XJ Sov Diesel LWB, '03 Merc S320CDi, '07 XJ Sov Diesel LWB

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    So, the lesson learnt is don't use dealers.

    Simples.
    2010 XJ Portfolio running on lorry fuel. I know, Jag Diesel is just wrong!

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