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    Quote Originally Posted by #steve View Post
    You're getting there Chris, just remember BMW means Bring Money in Wheelbarrow lol.
    I'm glad you're not going on BMW forum as I for one like reading about your car adventures.
    You would never have gotten rid of me Steve, I'd never have left this site; everyone here is like family!.... was just going to run a parallel thread on a BMW forum to get their feedback (and I guess also hoping it would be of interest). But it turns out... they don't like this sort of thing!

    This whole thing reminds me of something from when a long time ago....

    From a young age, I always wanted an XJ; to be specific, I always wanted an XJ40 Sovereign, just like the one my uncle had when I was a little boy. I could not afford to insure one when I first passed my test, so I had a Peugeot 405. It was sort of a big car, so it kind of settled my XJ craving.

    Then, when I turned 19, I still could not afford a to insure an XJ, but I could afford something like a BMW, Audi or Mercedes with a smaller 1.8 or 2.0 litre engine. Jaguar only made large engine cars back then. So I ended up with a BMW 520i SE... I guess it was my "poor man's XJ".

    I joined the BMW owners club and used to get the club magazine, but I found it all a bit stuffy and ended up cancelling my membership. I found the magazine painfully dull. As far as I could tell, there were no members meet-ups in the Norfolk area where I lived.

    So then fast forward on another 2 years and I turned 21. I finally managed to insure a Jaguar, and bought my first XJ (an XJ40 4.0 litre Sovereign in red just like my uncles had been). Back then the depreciation on Jaguars was horrific, and my luxurious XJ Sovereign cost me just £1,750; with the sale of the bum-basic BMW 5 series provided me with £3,000 to bank... go figure!

    Because the BMW club was a tad boring, I assumed the Jag club would be even worse.. so although I joined the JEC (yawn... I'm feeling tired thinking about it) and got their sleepy magazine (I think they wheel the editor out of a coffin), I never joined the local club... Big mistake!

    It was not until 8 years later that I finally went along to our local JEC 'pub meet' out of curiosity, and discovered the greatest, fun loving bunch of people. My Daimler V8 won 1st place in their 'Show and shine' on the first day I attended their meet (which was embarrassing), and I joined in 2 more trips in Europe with them within the 2 months that followed. To me, Jaguar owners have always seemed very down to earth and fun loving. The local JEC meet would often be visited by owners of Mercedes, Audi, BMW, or in one case Aston Martin owners, and we would be just as passionate and enthusiastic about those other brands; with healthy banter thrown in of course. There were one couple in the club who owned a BMW Z4 and had never owned a Jag. They got to know other members through shows, and joined the JEC because of the nature of the members. They were never treated any differently because they did not own a Jag, no one even cared.

    Funny how this same scenario seems to have played out on my recent forum experiences... I refer of course to the Bimmerfest moderator's comment of "Your post had nothing to do with BMW's". It seems that because I dared mention another brand, I was not welcome. Yet everyone on the Jag forum seems "Reluctantly tolerant" (previously said "thrilled", until Mac_doctor pointed out this was an error) to read about my BMW....!

    So while BMW enjoy a reputation of being sporty and modern, I found their club members to be a bit stuck up and dull. The forum name of 'Bimmerfest' is very informal and sounds "crazy" and "out there", yet the moderators behave in a very stuffy and strict manner. Most people will say that Jaguar seem to have this 'boring old man' image, yet most of the drivers are nothing like that, and actually a lot of fun. Our forum has the restrained 'Jaguarforum.com' name, yet the members/moderator on here are far more youthful and down to earth in their behaviour than it would suggest.

    I might own a BMW, but I remain firmly in the spirit of a Jaguar owner... and at least I still have the Daimler to settle my cravings!

    --- One thing I should add though, I was a forum member on the Mercedesclub.org forum for a couple of years, and found them very like our Jaguar crowd. They were thrilled to see pictures of my Jaguars, there was lots of good banter, and I got loads of interest on my project thread. I still drop in from time to time to see how some of their project threads have been going, (although sadly a lot of them seem to have faded away now).

    ....so it seems the stuffiness might be confined to BMW forums!!...
    Last edited by C16RKC; 17-01-19 at 15:14. Reason: Changed "Thrilled" to "Reluctantly tolerant"
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    2007 Land Rover Range Rover Sport 2.7TDi (The Wife's baby hauler)

    Previous cars: 1992 XJ40 Sovereign, 1994 XJ40 Sovereign, 2000 XJ Sovereign, 2000 Daimler V8, 2003 X350 Super V8, 1994 Renault Clio(!), 1999 Mercedes S430L, 2008 XJ X358 Sovereign Diesel, 2003 Mercedes S320CDi, 2007 XJ X358 Sovereign Diesel LWB

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    "thrilled" may be pushing it a little.
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    Thanks Chris - Thrilled is a bit strong... I've corrected it.
    Regards
    Chris Clark
    2001 XJ Daimler Super V8 (Car for 'best')
    2004 BMW 730d (Daily workhorse)
    2007 Land Rover Range Rover Sport 2.7TDi (The Wife's baby hauler)

    Previous cars: 1992 XJ40 Sovereign, 1994 XJ40 Sovereign, 2000 XJ Sovereign, 2000 Daimler V8, 2003 X350 Super V8, 1994 Renault Clio(!), 1999 Mercedes S430L, 2008 XJ X358 Sovereign Diesel, 2003 Mercedes S320CDi, 2007 XJ X358 Sovereign Diesel LWB

    www.autosanity.com

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