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    Question Looking for my first Jaguar, MK 2, S-Type (1960's) or a MK10 / MK10 derivative.

    Hi there folks,

    This is my first foray into the jaguar forum, so please be gentle..!!

    Having reached the old age of 55 I am now looking, finally, to buy a car I want, but don't need, rather than a car I need but don't want (kids,school etc.).

    I am looking for a Sunday lunch, special trip type of car, and will possibly travel to N Scotland every year or so, but would guess less than 5,000 miles yearly.

    I wonder if there is any useful material, guidance etc on what to look for when looking at this era of jaguars?

    Some of the adverts look great for a £10k car and others for a £35k car..but i cant tell the difference.

    I suppose it helps to also say I am not mechanically minded, but my Son is as he worked on RAF strike aircraft for some years.

    Any pointers, guidance or warnings most welcome..

    Many thanks in advance

    John

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    Hello John,

    Have you any experience driving cars of that era, as you may find them a bit of a culture shock? Consider trying one from a classic car hire company?

    I think that if you look at the same model with large price differential you will see why there is a difference. That said, with Mk2 saloons there is the desirability factor which significantlly affects price, from a basic automatic 2.4 or 240 to a manual overdrive 3.8, with wire wheels. (The latter feature I can do without, personally)

    Buy the best you can find for your budget and, if possible find someone who is familiar with the model you consider buying to assist with viewing.

    Alec
    2004 2.5 X Type Estate, MK 2 3.8 (Long term restoration), 2.5 P.I. Triumph saloon, 564 Hymer motorhome.

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    There is a ‘snobbery ‘ about Mark2s with 2.4/240s being poor relations rather undeservedly but this affects price as well as desirability. A good 240 would be better in real life than a crap 3.4 but you would probably pay a lot more for the latter.
    I agree you should hire one first then if you like it search for a suitable one. You will also find it wise to join the JEC and will probably find a technical expert who will be prepared to view and give an opinion without prejudice on a potential purchase.

    Good luck
    PETER DAVIES, 2016 XF 2.0 diesel Portfolio. 1967 Mark2 (240.)

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    If you are looking for a Jaguar Small Saloon, the 1963 to 1968 S type is a better Jaguar than the MK-2, with its twin fuel tanks, Independent Rear Suspension (same suspension as the E type and the XJ ). Roomier interior, wonderful wood dash, huge boot, and a rear end look like a small Bentley. The MK-2 looks like a Volkswagen at the rear end.

    the MK-2 is a primitive car when compared with the S type. Why does it sell for more than the S type when so many MK-2 were made? Maybe because people like Volkswagens?

    Only about 25 thousand S type were made for the entire world market in the 4½ years of its production. Replacement Parts supply is excellent, you can find most anything, new or used.

    yet, the S type sells for less than a MK-2. Go figure.

    Another under-rated Jaguar Small Saloon is the 1966-1968 420, (not the 420-G). The 420 is half S type and half MK-X / XJ. It has the 4.2 liter engine, from the front windscreen back it is an S type. From the front windscreen forward it is a MK-X or XJ more or less. Parts supply is iffy, particularly body panels and trim. It was only made for 2 years.

    To answer your main question:

    Never buy a car sight unseen, always check it in person. Pictures do not tell the whole story. Pictures could be 15 years old and they usually are.

    Look for RUST and ROT, carry a magnet with you. run it around the car. Where the magnet does not want to stick, you might have Bondo / Plastic filler covering prior damage to body panels. Cars in England rot due to weather. Let the car speak, it will tell you clearly its condition.

    check the exhaust system, an expensive repair if you have to replace it.

    then check the transmission and engine for massive leaks underneath, (all old cars leak, and old Jaguars are no exception).

    If you want a classic car without rust or rot, you'll have to look in the Western and Southern USA, where old cars are well preserved. But they are Left Hand Drive. One step forward, two steps back.

    Good luck.
    1965 Jaguar 3.8 'S'
    1984 Jaguar XJ-6 4.2

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    Hello XJ for two,
    it's a matter of taste. The S Type is too big and bulky for me, mostly automatics and not as sporty. That is why they are not as sought after and this is reflected in the market price.
    Alec

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