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    Easy theft prevention

    Normally I don't worry about theft and never had a car stolen. But when on the beach and keys cleverly hidden in shoes, or when driving in foreign countries and you read about our damn keys easy to read by criminals at lunch stops etc., our cars are easy to steal.

    I was just wondering: Is there an easy way to stop a thief that has the key/key-info? Is there a fuse that's easy to remove? Is there a connector in the engine room that if not connected the computer won't let it start? Has anybody made a secret switch?

    I could use such knowledge maybe 5 times per year. Or I could buy lock bar for steering wheel, but that's a bit crude...
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    I had a GPS puck with a sim card(GSM) that I hid in the car and I could switch off the fuelpump by sending a code to it. Also you can set up a perimeter so if the car passes that the gps puck will let you know.Mine was bought from AliExpress and only lasted 6 month or so before it died but there are better one's out there.
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    There are several theft deterrents available.

    1) A manual battery kill switch which would be a pita to access each time.
    2) An automatic variant of above or on the fuel pump but means another remote, usually around £30+ (plus installation if beyond your skills.
    3) A visual deterrant such as a road wheel boot or a steering wheel lock. A road wheel boot for a 20" wheel is not cheap at £150+ and a decent steering wheel lock starts at around £30. The problem with these is you have to carry it around. As they are invariably large and of metal contruction I'd not be happy about having one rattling around in my boot, so it would probably have to sit on the rear seats strapped in or else behind the passenger seat.

    Personally I think Jag security is quite good so I just ensure mine's locked and no valuables are left on display
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    Quote Originally Posted by No Quarter View Post
    But when on the beach and keys cleverly hidden in shoes, or when driving in foreign countries and you read about our damn keys easy to read by criminals at lunch stops etc., our cars are easy to steal.
    I assume you are already using a Faraday bag to make it hard to read the key?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neilr View Post
    I assume you are already using a Faraday bag to make it hard to read the key?
    No, I bought such a bag, but I could still drive the car away...
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    Quote Originally Posted by No Quarter View Post
    No, I bought such a bag, but I could still drive the car away...
    Then you must have done something wrong as the one I have, you can’t get in the car even with the bag on the roof.
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    I didn't even know key reading was a thing. Are all brands subject to this?

    One thing I have noticed about my Jaguar fob compared to my BMW fob is how flimsy and light it is. I have no idea why the BMW one is so much heavier and more solid feeling, but I do confess that it feels better in the hand and the perception of quality is higher with the Bimmer unit. It's probably just that age-old weight = quality but it's very noticeable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myron View Post
    I didn't even know key reading was a thing. Are all brands subject to this?

    One thing I have noticed about my Jaguar fob compared to my BMW fob is how flimsy and light it is. I have no idea why the BMW one is so much heavier and more solid feeling, but I do confess that it feels better in the hand and the perception of quality is higher with the Bimmer unit. It's probably just that age-old weight = quality but it's very noticeable.
    BMW key fobs are no longer susceptible to this kind of theft as it will cut of the signal as soon as the fob senses its no longer moving so you can safly leave your fob on the table at home and the crims can not pick up the signal to start the car
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    Quote Originally Posted by No Quarter View Post
    No, I bought such a bag, but I could still drive the car away...
    The one I bought had two pockets. Only one side of the inner divider works - the "rear" part. The front is for non-sensitive stuff, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neilr View Post
    The one I bought had two pockets. Only one side of the inner divider works - the "rear" part. The front is for non-sensitive stuff, I guess.
    Exactly the same as mine Neil.
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