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    They sell without fluid, got this but did not link directly as wasn't sure what box his XJ has

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    Right, Santer.

    Alan it's best you call the suppliers to be sure these will fit your gearbox before you order.

    The S gearbox is the ZF 6HP26, yours might be the 6HP19 I don't know?

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    Thanks Jim and Santer,

    Really helpful info and advice from you guys, as always. The box in my X358 is the same ZF 6HP26, so I'll contact these suppliers for the service parts I need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jberks View Post
    I guess the real test with the Comma, is gearbox wear over time compared to the genuine ZF stuff. It may shift ok for a period, but for the long term? and when it slips, what damage is being done? £60 seems too cheap - though I have no evidence on which to base that, just gut instinct which is hopelessly unreliable.
    Comma is generally on the cheap DIY side of things and as a brand I'd not use it in the engine, though I do use Millers.
    Sorry, i've not been on much, so this is a bit of a delayed answer. Yes I do agree that 60 is a bit on the cheap side and I am still wary of cheap. However, I don't think that the fluid would deteriorate any more than any other hydraulic fluid. If it was wrong for the box then it should have been wrong from the start. The Jag is still running on it and clocking some miles.
    XF 3.0 D Luxury 2010. And no, chemical fixes can be handy, but do not replace technicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alan@agilecomputers.co.uk View Post
    Hi Richard,

    My XJ X358 2.7D is approaching 75k miles and has never had the gearbox fluid changed to my knowledge, so it's a job I want doing in the new year. I'd like to use Ian at Leapers in Thame, Oxon (local Jag indie specialist) because I've found him to be very good. However, he has quoted to drop the sump and double fill to first flush the torque converter and oil cooler and then replace with fresh ATF with a new pan/filter. This uses a lot of oil so works out quite wasteful and pricey, plus I'd rather employ your recommended method with the Launch CAT501 machine to replace 100% of the fluid, the sump pan, filter and mechatronic sleeve/seal. If Ian had one of your machines I'd use him without question, but I'll probably end-up using Autotech BMW in Slough.

    I'd like to supply my own ATF from either Smith & Allan or Westway Lubricants, but can you (or any others on the forum) recommend a good source for the pan and filter kit, together with all the bolts, the mechatronic seal and sleeve? As all the Christmas credit card bills drop on the mat just when I contemplate needing this doing in January, it would be handy if I could save a few bob on this job! Thanks in advance for any advice.

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    Hi Alan, sorry for the late reply. I like the Febi fluid available from Euro Car Parts, it seems to be an exact match for ZF fluid, even the colour is exactly the same.

    Did you manage to get it done before Xmas?
    XF 3.0 D Luxury 2010. And no, chemical fixes can be handy, but do not replace technicians.

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    Hi Bluechem,

    A quick question for one of Swiss forum members.
    Are there any of your gearbox service machine in switzerland
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducmon View Post
    Hi Bluechem,

    A quick question for one of Swiss forum members.
    Are there any of your gearbox service machine in switzerland
    Hi Ducmon

    Sorry for the late reply. I spoke to the MD of a Company called Lube 1 in Switzerland, name of Paul Riedl. Their machine is in Switzerland but may be a more expensive job. Most European Countries flush gearboxes more than in the UK, we are miles behind here. You need to make sure that all of the fluid is changed and many ATF machines will do that. I have 250 machines out there now but Germany are +600 machines.
    XF 3.0 D Luxury 2010. And no, chemical fixes can be handy, but do not replace technicians.

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    Personally I don't know why all Jaguar Specialists do not have a gearbox flush and fluid exchange machine. The job can't be done properly without one!!
    XF 3.0 D Luxury 2010. And no, chemical fixes can be handy, but do not replace technicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluechem View Post
    Hi Alan, sorry for the late reply. I like the Febi fluid available from Euro Car Parts, it seems to be an exact match for ZF fluid, even the colour is exactly the same.

    Did you manage to get it done before Xmas?
    I haven't had the job done yet Richard as life gets in the way all the time! I will probably use John at Autotech BMW in Langley, Slough on Jim's recommendation and because they use your Launch CAT501 machine to switch-out all the ATF. The other thing causing me to dither is not knowing enough about the acceptable brand(s) of Pan/Filter, mechatronic Sleeve Connector and Mechatronic Adapter Seal (is this different?) to use for the ZF 6HP26 and where to buy them. I'll have to do some more searching I guess, but if you or any other members here can list the service parts needed for a full gearbox service at 74,000 miles, that will be really useful.
    XJ Sovereign 2.7 TDVi, January 2008, Indigo Blue Pearl

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    Quote Originally Posted by alan@agilecomputers.co.uk View Post
    I haven't had the job done yet Richard as life gets in the way all the time! I will probably use John at Autotech BMW in Langley, Slough on Jim's recommendation and because they use your Launch CAT501 machine to switch-out all the ATF. The other thing causing me to dither is not knowing enough about the acceptable brand(s) of Pan/Filter, mechatronic Sleeve Connector and Mechatronic Adapter Seal (is this different?) to use for the ZF 6HP26 and where to buy them. I'll have to do some more searching I guess, but if you or any other members here can list the service parts needed for a full gearbox service at 74,000 miles, that will be really useful.
    It is only my opinion Alan, but for me a full service, if there are no issues with the gearbox, does not involve dropping down the mechatronic unit. The square seal and finger seals are not dynamic and disturbing the mechatronic unit for me is not worth it. So, for me it is sump pan, 14 litres of 6HP fluid, wire seal ( that's the sleeve adapter seal), transmission flush and a proper exchange machine.
    XF 3.0 D Luxury 2010. And no, chemical fixes can be handy, but do not replace technicians.

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