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Hello all,
I'm looking for some advice, tea and sympathy regarding my 1999 S-type (V6 auto).
To be brief: it broke down, I took it to Jaguar in La Rochelle, they changed the coils and spark plugs (600€), and quoted me a further 1500€ to replace the timing chains and water pump, as it was (and is) still running on "limp home" mode and the engine warning light was flickering on and off constantly. They say it's the tensioners that are at fault, but they won't supply the diagnostic codes, even tho' they've done the diagnostic test (apparently).

I've read here, and heard from several reliable sources that the tensioners on the V6 rarely cause problems (unlike the V8), so I'm slightly dubious about the initial diagnosis.
As the car is only worth £2k or less, I'm reluctant to spend that money, and was wondering if it would be worth trying to get it back to the UK for repair there?
To that end, I've spoken to Jagcare in Portsmouth, and they say they've never replaced the tensioners/chain kit on a V6, as they never go wrong!
What to do? I was thinking of taking it to a Ford dealer in France and seeing if they could get a readout of the codes for me: is that a good idea? At least I might have a clearer idea of what's going on.
Alternatively, maybe a fellow expat in my part of France (the Vendée, near Fontenay and Niort) knows a Jag specialist I could take the car to for a 2nd opinion?

All advice most welcome!
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Frank
 

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In theory it could be chains/tensioners but the symptoms are wrong and as you have found the V6 doesn't suffer such things at all often (if at all).

You could read the codes very easily and cheaply with a cheap OBD tool - about £10-20 depending which you get.

Yes a Ford place should be able to read them but get the actual codes and then look up what they mean in the codes PDF. If not on here it's on Gus's site JagRepair.com - Jaguar Repair Information Resource

Chances are you have an air leak because that's what your era engine tends to have but the codes are what you want. Have a search on here for
air leak
hose elbow

and then you have some ideas.

Only reason I know for the MIL to flash is catalyst-damaging misfires. Usual cause on that engine is coil(s) but can be an air leak.

Oh, and dump the Jag garage!!

I suppose they'll be an independently-owned franchise but they're still useless and ripping you off.

Let's suppose it turns out it IS the elbow. You can DIY or get any competent garage to fix it if you use posts here to tell them what and where it is. And you can get part numbers etc from here I reckon. Worst case, you buy the parts quite cheaply and get a garage to fit. But as I say get codes first.
 

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Worn tensioners won't put the light on and cause limp mode. The 3.0 V6 chain and tensioners are supposed to last indefinitely, which obviously they won't but very un-common to hear of problems with them on these engines.
 

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Many thanks for those replies, o4str and numptie-boy: you've raised my spirits somewhat, after the godawful time I've had with this French main dealer!
I'll certainly read up about air leaks and hose elbows on here.

In the meantime, I guess it might be easier just to get an OBD scanner myself, as they're quite cheap?
Would this one do the trick? It says it only does "European and Asian vehicles from 2001", so should I look for an older model, as mine's a 1999 model?
Car fault reader code scanner diagnostic tool OBD 2 CAN | eBay
 

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+1 on the Elm. If you go for one get the Bluetooth version.

I believe if you run Android or iOS the torque pro app is the one to go for.
If like myself you have Windows Phone then the app called Car Scanner Pro is the one to get. Think it costs about £2.50 and has all the live data options as being able to read/reset codes plus a handy dashboard setup. Best feature is yob mode haha 0-60 tests and track mode

Ryan
 

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This thread is over 4 years old.:confused:
 

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Oops :eek:I wish that people would say problem solved I was googling a problem when I found it thought it was still open.
 

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Guess i got sucked in too!

Ah well, besides, handy info gave maybe someone will take note
 
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