Bluetooth Headache

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joebit

Discussion Starter · May 22, 2012

Hi all,
I need help working out what may be wrong with mty Bluetooth install performed today.

Firstly I'm located in Australia and i own a s type r built August 2003. I ordered a voice module, microphone, phone module and bluetooth module from eurojag. My bluetooth connector under the armrest appears to be a 8 wire connection. The vehicle never had a factory phone fitted and i think that i have been prewired for bluetooth as i have a pse module connection in the boot along with a voice connection in the boot. Once the microphone and the phone module was connrvted i proceeded to plug the bluetooth and expected to be able to pair my phone. When the phone button was pressed the system says Handset In Use Mute and replace handset to continue hands free call or replace handset to end call. I can not get out of this screen. Uncertain as to wether the microphone was working or not i disconnected the phone module and connected the voice module. As soon as i tested the voice module to my surprise the voice module worked fine.
The model no. of the phone module is 2w93-19k350-AC software version is 1.30(As checked in diag mode) and the Bluetooth module 3w83-14b409-AC. I have read on an x type TSB the phone module software needs to be version 4.0 in order to work correctly. Can anybody clarify if their module is the same software as mine and is working with bluetooth. Diag mode can be accessed by pressing the am/fm button and the eject button at the same time. From the you need to select the the eject and mix buttons to cycle through each modules software version. my navigation software is 1.22. Any clues would be a great help.
regards
Joe

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joebit

Discussion Starter · #2 · May 22, 2012

Hi all,
I need help working out what may be wrong with mty Bluetooth install performed today.

Firstly I'm located in Australia and i own a s type r built August 2003. I ordered a voice module, microphone, phone module and bluetooth module from eurojag. My bluetooth connector under the armrest appears to be a 8 wire connection. The vehicle never had a factory phone fitted and i think that i have been prewired for bluetooth as i have a pse module connection in the boot along with a voice connection in the boot. Once the microphone and the phone module was connected i proceeded to plug the bluetooth and expected to be able to pair my phone. When the phone button was pressed the system says

Handset In Use Mute and replace handset to continue hands free call or replace handset to end call.

I can not get out of this screen. Uncertain as to wether the microphone was working or not i disconnected the phone module and connected the voice module. As soon as i tested the voice module to my surprise the voice module worked fine.

The model no. of the phone module is 2w93-19k350-AC software version is 1.30(As checked in diag mode) and the Bluetooth module 3w83-14b409-AC. I have read on an x type TSB the phone module software needs to be version 4.0 in order to work correctly. Can anybody clarify if their module is the same software as mine and is working with bluetooth. Diag mode can be accessed by pressing the am/fm button and the eject button at the same time. From the you need to select the the eject and mix buttons to cycle through each modules software version. my navigation software is 1.22. Any clues would be a great help.
regards
Joe

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stanboy

· #3 · May 22, 2012

check that your armrest blue tooth connector pin outs match the blue tooth module pin outs??

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joebit

Discussion Starter · #4 · May 22, 2012

Do the colour of the wires matter or just the position of the pins? Also do we have a link to info on the pins that may need to be changed?
regards
Joe

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stanboy

· #5 · May 22, 2012

make sure the pin positions in your car match the pin positions in the new bluetooth module[ that will be that one confirmed ok] i assume every thing is coupled thro the fibre optics? search [bluetooth wiring] there was a lot of info re the pins to be changed..hopefully someone might have it to hand.

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Ian D

· #6 · May 22, 2012

Have you made sure on the 8 wires are in the right configuration as Bluetooth on Jaguars didn't come out till 2005.

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stanboy

· #7 · May 22, 2012

http://www.jaguarforum.co.uk/f26/swapping-gsm-phone-bluetooth-help-40275.html. look thro this you will find the diagram you want/need, good luck.

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joebit

Discussion Starter · #8 · May 27, 2012

Hi all thanks fot your help so far.

Yesterday i rearranged the pins on my pse and centre console plugs. As soon as this was done presto bluetotth connectivity became available to me. I have been able to sucessfully pair my iphone 4 running os 5.1.1, My sons Nokia N95 8gb and my other sons iphone 3g 16gb running os 4.21. All paired easily and i can make calls from my centre screen. The problem is that as soon as connection is made the recipient can't hear me unless i change the phone setting to loudspeaker effectively routing the audio to the phones speaker and away from the cars speakers. I would have thought that the problem is the microphone in the car but when i added voice module my microphone was working perfectly. I can't test to system with both voice and bluetooth as i don't have a spare D2B lead. Does anybody have any thoughts about this. Do you think maybe the voice module and the bluetooth module must be connected together in order for my system to work propertly?

Thanks in advance.

regards
Joe

P.S Special thanks to everybody for their input to date. It appears the info was correct re pin configuration as my vehicle was expecting a GSM phone instead of a bluetooth module therefore the pin positions needed to be rearranged inorder for the prewiring to be effective.

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Fitzy

· #9 · May 27, 2012

Joe

Im gonna be doing a Bluetooth install on my S Type in a few weeks, can you please tell me how you opened the PSE cable connector in the boot to move the pins about?

Many thanks

Dave

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joebit

Discussion Starter · #10 · May 27, 2012

Fitzy said:
Joe

Im gonna be doing a Bluetooth install on my S Type in a few weeks, can you please tell me how you opened the PSE cable connector in the boot to move the pins about?

Many thanks

Dave

Dave,
The rear pse Plug has a light grey cover that covers a black plug where all the wires are fixed. The gray cover slides off in one direction in its entirty there are a couple of plastic locking luggs that hold the cover in place. It can only slide one way.
Changing the pins is a two person job to make it easier, as you need to gently pull on the wire and press the pin lock to release the pin. There are 2 pin locks per pin.

Good luck.

Joe

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stanboy

· #11 · May 28, 2012 (Edited)

stanboy said:
joebit said:

Hi all thanks fot your help so far.

Yesterday i rearranged the pins on my pse and centre console plugs. As soon as this was done presto bluetotth connectivity became available to me. I have been able to sucessfully pair my iphone 4 running os 5.1.1, My sons Nokia N95 8gb and my other sons iphone 3g 16gb running os 4.21. All paired easily and i can make calls from my centre screen.

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well done joebit. how did you manage to pair 3 phones. the general consensus is it will only pair one. regarding your speech problems im sure it will be resolved when you patch in the voice module do you happen to have cd changer you could take out of the cicuit?. eurojags are favourites to get one from. if you are really really stuck i ave some i like to keep for myself just in case [P.S.] you have took your voice module out of the cicuit altogether ie removed the multi plug as well?

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joebit

Discussion Starter · #12 · May 29, 2012

Bluetooth finally working as its supposed to. Managed to modify a D2B Cable with the help from a document by Westville and connected the voice module to the network. Nearly there now. All i need to work out now is how to assign voice tags to phone no.s radio stations etc... Can't seem to get it to work. Most basic commands work fine like tune radio & Navigation zoom. When it comes to dialing memory no.s it gets stuck at the yes command. Also when it comes to assigning voice tags seems to get stuck at the name part and won't accept the name. Keeps on asking for the name about 3 times then says something link name not stored. Any ideas???
regards
Joe

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stanboy

· #13 · May 29, 2012

joebit said:
B When it comes to dialing memory no.s it gets stuck at the yes command. Also when it comes to assigning voice tags seems to get stuck at the name part and won't accept the name. Keeps on asking for the name about 3 times then says something link name not stored. Any ideas???
regards
Joe

i found the exact same problrms, you have to be very assertive, short sharp answers!!!

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joebit

Discussion Starter · #14 · Jun 1, 2012

Thanks for your input Stanboy.
Finally got everything working perfectly.
Well worth the effort.
Bluetooth works excellently and the voice module is totally behaving itself now.
Much thanks for all the help.
Regards
Joe

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