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After a long and eventful day trip to pick up an 08 X-Type 2.2D Auto Sovereign from Essex(we live in North Wales) for my wife. We were pleased with the car on initial sight, and after undertaking as many visual checks and a roadtest as I usually do when buying a used car plus some negotiation, we left with the car.
About 2 hours into our drive home and all was very well, until I leaned on the accelerator (not too much) to overtake a car ahead, and the car suddenly lurched and the eml came on flashing and "Gearbox Fault" on the driver info display.
We were close to a service stop so we pulled in and turned the engine off. Checked for any apparent issue under the bonnet?? Hmmm, I think that was to maybe look like I may know what I'm doing, rather than actually "what the hell am I looking for".
So I started her up and low and behold no issues?
This happened again and again, but we managed to get home.
I had the codes read with a Snap on Solus Pro scanner and it threw some codes up. These were deleted and we road tested the car again. Well, we now have even more of a problem, the car has now lost power again but was "pinking" under 1500rpm so much so that I had to select manual and drop it into a lower gear to raise the revs and stop the knocking as it seems to rev quite freely from 2000rpm, but under this as I say, there is a knocking noise and smoke coming from the exhaust. Now the codes are P132B and P1700 and P1719.
I have spoken to the dealer who informed me it has had a flat battery and maybe some sort of electrical issue, I have been and checked and indeed there does appear to be a new battery, however I did notice that the Amp rating was 74 and I can't seem to find out if that is sufficient enough to run the cars electrical system as the likes of Euro and halfords are quoting minimum 75 to 85.
He advised us to book it in to a Jag specialist for diagnosis and has assured me he will remedy.
This is good to hear however, being the annoying "I have to know what this is" kinda guy, I am hoping that some of you guys might be able to shed some light.
The mileage is 134k and I know it needs a service, although it has been serviced by jaguar up to 110k iirc.
I have also searched here for issues relating to mine here and of course Google, and have certainly found some fascinating posts and info. I could just be an unlucky so and so, but for all this to happen at virtually the same time?? Really?? Was I that bad in a former life?
Anyway, off to get a take away in my working car.
Thanks guys, keep up the excellent work and banter.
 

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Hi there, sorry to hear of your problems. The first thing to check is the turbo actuator arm is free. Then check the EGR to MAP sensor Pipe and the one below that.
With reference to your battery it needs to be 85Ah and 800 crank. I bought a Varta F18 a few years ago.

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Had the same issue, lots of things can cause this effect, The good news is its NOT your gearbox, first time I had this was about two years ago, EGR changed out and it lasted two years, then returned.

Ended up tapping a 8 mm hole in the turbo (Some clips on Youtube) and getting some oven cleaner in, that did help, removed EGR and cleaned out, also put a bottle of a one shot solution in to clean out the DPF unit, problem solved after 20ml run
 

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Check the egr to the intercooler hoses for splits and corroded jubilee clips as the hose can pop off.
I'm led to believe that the EGR VALVE cannot be Blanked off on a Facelift auto model and the valve cannot be properly cleaned like in other model's and it is best to replace with a new one.

Most members say that you should give a new car to you, a proper service (only use genuine jaguar oil and fuel filters and with the 2:2auto you need a LOW ASH C1 OIL WSS M2C 934B ) this number is not in the x type handbook. Dealer's were still using the 913 B oil which this Oil will be good for the engine but is not good because the 2:2auto has a Diesel Particulate Filter and you need a Low Ash C1 Oil WSS M2C 934B and only use 5 and 1/2 litres of oil due to having a Diesel Particulate Filter there is plenty off information on the Forum about the DPFilter issue's.
The one bug bare I don't like is the difficulty in reading the Dipstick level as sometimes it can have a Low Oil Level and you think I'll need to add Oil but don't as if you check the Dipstick regularly and have know oil leaks and recheck the oil level 3or4 times and you will eventually get a proper reading on the Dipstick.

They are great cars and once you have everything working properly and remember with a DPFILTER you need to give it an Italian tune sometimes and don't always drive with the revs below 2000 as with a Diesel and DPFilter they need to be Driven.

Regards Tom.
 

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Thank you all for your recommendations and advice, I have duly passed this on to the garage that now has the car for repair.
Ian, now they have the car in for repair I'll let them do their work but your comments have be passed on, thanks.
They have 4 Jags in their workshop as we speak, and they have done some very good work for me on previos cars, so here's hoping. Also I have passed this post info on to them John, cheers for the heads up.
I will take on board all of the things you have mentioned Tom, and make sure it is serviced before we get it back. On a good note, the dealer we bought it from has offered to pay for the repair/s and is also paying for a hire car for my Wife. Can't ask anymore at the moment
They did get the car started when they came to our house earlier, but they seem to think EGR and Poss Turbo/Actuator.
I'll keep you updated, and thanks again for your help.

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Glad to here your getting some where with the garage, They are several photos on here about dry joints in the turbo actuator, many can be fixed using a basic soldering iron, Rage monkey also did a write up on how the actuator arm should go through a full cycle as you start the car, believe is is in the back position and should do a full arms forward at start then position its self as required against engine speed, hope you get it sorted out soon,

Cheers Ian + Jackie
 

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Quick update, the car is being looked at when they have got the time to as they are very busy so not expecting overnight job. They have changed the actuator which has helped but they suspect more problems with the turbocharger, and they are going to fit a spare EGR valve tomorrow. All pipes so far seem ok, but they haven't checked them all.
Maybe it's just thrown all of it's toys out of the pram at the same time??
After the repair is done , it will be having a full service with oil recommended by Tom for sure, new blood and some fresh lungs should help.
 

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You say that they are going to fit a spare EGR VALVE,it has to be one that is compatible with the 2:2 auto with a DPFILTER the number i have is
0 261 230 172
FF16C6 R5 (816)
(Ford) 6X71-9F479-AA
CD331 made in Germany.
The above numbers are roughly the way they are shown on the egr valve for my 2:2 auto DPFilter.
There are posts on the Forum regarding egr valves for different x type model's.

Regards Tom.
 

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Well, I thought I would update you guys on the car saga!!
It is home finally, last friday tbh. And, it has had, wait for it... New Turbo inc manifold and actuator(wastgate), DPF and EGR sorted, alternator and battery. And of course fresh Oil and filters.
And it is running absolutely spot on.
The car was on it's test drive when the alternator light popped up and one of the coils was pooped, so they had to replace that too.
I would like to say a Huge Thank You to all that contributed here, to the garage that did all of the work and of course to the dealer from whom I bought the car. I'm not sure if I am allowed to mention his business, so I will leave that until someone can say either way. He went well out of his way, to ensure it was repaired and refunded our hire car costs to the penny.
This is something I believe needs to be highlighted as we are all(myself included) quick to point fingers when things don't go our way.
We have noticed some wallowing about from the suspension, and I'm assuming it'll need some shocks and springs. I'll tackle that in the new year, but for now she's spot on, oh and averaging high 40's. MPG
Happy days
 

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Feel free to name the place. It’s nice to hear of people that are willing to go the extra mile to keep their customers happy and may help someone else in your area.:mrgreen:
 

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Feel free to name the place. It's nice to hear of people that are willing to go the extra mile to keep their customers happy and may help someone else in your area.:mrgreen:
Excellent. It was Chris from Essex Car Centre, he promised us he would get the car repaired and he was true to his word. Even offered to pay £100 into our bank so that I could take the wife out for a meal as a sorry.
There are not many guys like him out there and I genuinely can't praise him enough.
And considering we live in Wrexham(North Wales) you can only imagine our worries.
Cheers
Andy
 

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Yes it's great to know where and who these people are as they are hard to come by.
Glad you got it all sorted.

Roger
 
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