The trouble with the Ingenium engines is that the timing chain is at the rear so to get at it, even just to inspect it, you have to remove the transmission, torque converter and flywheel. This is such a large job that having got that far you might as well replace the chains and tensioners anyway, even if they're not showing signs of wear. So, if you ask a garage to inspect the timing chains all they can actually do without all the above dismantling is to listen to it, just like you can do! If there is any suspicion at all that it is worn, then replacement is the only safe action.
Ingenium Timing chain issues.
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Bear in mind it's not just the chain. It's the chains (there are two of them), guides, tensioners and sprockets (it comes as a kit from Jaguar).
The 'fix' embodied from Nov 2019, which incorporated a damped intermediate sprocket (the one that takes drive from the lower to the upper chains),is generally regarded as being a proper fix.
Anyway, I had mine done as a precaution at a cost of a little under £1700. I've had the car 4 1/2 years and given that I haven't spent a penny on warranties, I'm probably now in profit!
Thanks actually incorrect. Rover/MGRover never offered the MLS gasket as recommended by their engine supplier (Powertrain). Land Rover, who used the same engines from Powertrain did take up the engines with the uprated parts, and also had it as a replacement set of parts for when the HG did go on the earlier cars that were supplied with composite HGs and smaller ladders.
And as an MGF owner, I'm sure you are aware that replacing the HG with the MLS one, along with the required stronger ladder and stronger headbolts (can you call them head bolts on a K series?) is not a complete solution, as the stat is still an issue. The MLS ones still fail, ask Freelander owners. Obviously, in applications like the Freelander, the engine is under additional stresses not present in K series based saloons, hatchback and hairdresser;s transport*
Also, the K series is not a safe engine - safe in this case means there is always clearance between the valves and the pistons under cam timing failure conditions.
So the 60k thing on the Ingenium is hearsay really? I'm inquisitive, as ours is on 120k, and no intention of doing the chains until the clutch needs doing or the DMF fails, both must be getting towards the end of their useful life. Hence I'm interested in seeing pics of the failure, to see if its something I should be able to feel/hear, as you do with most failures on chain setups. Certainly no signs of chain slap or failed guides on ours... ...yet.
*absolutely no offence intended, I actually quite like the MGF and similar cheap, small, less powerful but fun 2 seater ragtop sports cars. They are an absolute hoot to drive on warm, dry days, and much RWD fun can be had
Thanks for reply , i have ask the garage to get the chain kit from the jaguar , they know that includes everything you just say.Bear in mind it's not just the chain. It's the chains (there are two of them), guides, tensioners and sprockets (it comes as a kit from Jaguar).
The 'fix' embodied from Nov 2019, which incorporated a damped intermediate sprocket (the one that takes drive from the lower to the upper chains) is It is generally regarded as being a proper fix.
Anyway, I had mine done as a precaution at a cost of a little under £1700. I've had the car 4 1/2 years and given that I haven't spent a penny on warranties, I'm probably now in profit!
Many thanks!
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