Ingenium Timing chain issues.

Fraser said:

If the engine turns over, and everything looks perfectly OK apart from lack of compression, does the answer lie here? This is the description of the valve train- "fully variable". What if it a fault prevents the valves from being fully closed at compression stroke?

Most main agents of any make of car will never do any engine strips, they just do parts swaps these days - engine gone? new engine! Only independent 3rd party shops do engine strip-downs these days.

I found this on a Google search: -

https://www.jaguar-swansea.co.uk/latest-news-blog/2020/1/20/ingenium-engine-timing-chain-issues

and

https://www.facebook.com/MITSILAND/...200d-engine-worn-timing-cha/2647889342111935/

I have to say I'm worried as I also have an XE, a May 2017 reg. 20D Portfolio.

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Fraser et al,

I took the liberty of contacting meristematic as mentioned in your post-Fraser and they couldn't have been more helpful. Below is an edited version of our communication

Hi Richard

Thank you for your email. The Ingenium 2.0 timing chain is a common failure, parts, and labor approx. £1398. it requires removing the gearbox and the back of the engine, we have done about 6 vehicles in the last 3 months with one in the workshop at the moment. If you send me the last 8 digits of your chassis number, I will make an inquiry to see if yours has been fitted with the newer timing chain.

Angela

Hi Angela,

The last 8 digits of my VIN are HCP09334.
I look forward to your reply.
Regards,

Richard.

Hi Richard

Thank you for your reply, I know the price seems high but there are approx. 11 hours of work involved and with all the parts and VAT it quickly mounts up, I have done some checks but can't really get a straight answer, your Vin brings up a 2016/17 vehicle, and the newer chains were not fitted until 25/11/2019 onwards so obviously to order these parts for your Vin number would then automatically supersede to the newer timing chains, we initially find the first symptoms are rattle from timing chain area, Cam sensor codes, exhaust vibration, not sure if this helps you but we would have to check. (I couldn't find the 'highlight' button!)

Angela

Hi Angela,

Thank you very much for your reply and the information you have provided.
My car isn't currently displaying any untoward symptoms (it has currently only covered around 40,000 miles) but clearly is in the range of vehicles that could be susceptible to this failure. I, therefore, need to consider whether it is a worthwhile precautionary measure to replace these parts.

Richard.

Hi Richard

I am happy your car isn't displaying any of the symptoms, it's not all the XE Ingenium engines that have been suffering from this. The one we have in the workshop at the moment has jumped 2 teeth, obviously, the chain has stretched giving the rattle from the engine.

Angela

What I take away from this is the need to be vigilant in the event of any untoward noises. Ensure that whenever the car is serviced the codes are downloaded and if the cam sensor pops up, have it checked out. I think that if a timing chain stretches enough for it to jump on a sprocket, there would be enough noise and/or fault codes to allow sufficient time to rectify ahead of a total failure.

I am toying with getting the newer parts and fitting them as a precaution but as I'm currently only doing a handful of miles I'll hold fire for the time being.

I hope everyone is keeping well.

Richard.