I've inherited my Fathers pride and joy

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I've always found car forums like these an invaluable source of info, help and support and I'm hoping this one will be no different but my reason for being here is somewhat unusual. This is likely to be a long post so many thanks for reading on. Admins, I wasn’t sure where to post this so please feel free to move this post to a more appropriate thread category.

Sadly, my Father passed away recently and bequeathed me his immaculate, v. low mileage 2006 Vanden Plas spec TDVi with every conceivable optional extra. I'd dearly love to keep it, I've also shared his love of Jaguars but not quite to the same obsessive level :) The big problem is that I live in Montenegro (despite the pandemic - my wife and I managed to make a mad road trip across 8 countries to be at his side before he died - but that's another story!). For reasons too numerous and boring, it’s simply not an option to take it back with me. Plus, it probably wouldn’t last more than a year in Montenegro!

We do return to the UK once or twice a year, so moth balling the car somewhere (so we can use it instead of hiring cars) is an option but initial investigation suggests that doing this through a car storage company isn’t an affordable option. I loved my Dad and have come to love the car as much as he did (almost), but you have to be pragmatic.

I could continue to store it at the parental home but it’s such a huge reminder of who Dad was that my surviving 84 year old Mother would find it too upsetting. She’s having to deal with enough as it is and has intimated she wants it gone.

The sensible, emotionless option would be to sell it, but that feels wrong too. Maybe it will be easier as time passes but I don’t have that luxury. I’m also out of touch with the UK car market and have no idea of it’s worth. During one of the last conversations we had, Dad’s words were “I want you to have the car but if you have to sell it don’t accept less than seven and a half grand for it!” Despite the high spec, condition, low mileage etc. I’m not sure this is a reasonable asking price. Especially given my Dad’s perhaps biased view of it’s worth. The half-hearted research I’ve done over the last few days suggests it’s not a particularly rare model and other, slightly later models, are more desirable. Am I right?

The final, rather implausible option, would be to find an enthusiast who could appropriately store, care for, and enjoy using the car in exchange for making it available for my use on those few occasions we return to the UK. I once enjoyed the use of a Mazda MX5 for 4 years on such an arrangement so I know it can work. It's an option fraught with difficulties and the devil would be in the detail of such an agreement but it is currently my favourite. So this forum seemed a good place to find possible candidates.

In summary, your thoughts and ideas on the above would be welcome. Should I keep it? What could I expect to get for it through private sale? Are there any trustworthy individuals out there willing to use and look after the car while I’m out of the country? Feel free to contact me directly or reply below. I look forward to your replies – even if that’s a ... “It’s just a bloody car get over it!” 😊 IMG_9298resize.jpg
 

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Hello & welcome, stay safe.

First, condolences on the loss of your father. What an interesting story, and I hope you get the right solution for you. I’m afraid I’m unable to help at all, other than to suggest that if you want to sell then maybe a good independent Jaguar garage may help.
 

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Welcome to the forum and sorry for your loss.
If I were you I would keep the the car no matter the cost if that was your fathers true pride and joy. I know it can be difficult and irrational as it is “just a car” but the emotions envolved with it are not “just”. As the time passes you will appreciate the car more with each day and will be a soothing reminder of your dad. I understand that in Montenegro it can be tricky keeping such a car but the price of dry storage there is a pittance compared to UK prices.
 

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Aye dry storage in Montenegro i'd imagine would be far cheaper than in the UK

I'd keep it..

If she is in remarkable condition then 7.5k wouldn't be a far shout.
 

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Thanks for all the kind words, direct messages, conversations and replies about the car. Rather than deal with enquiries individually I thought it easier to deal with them in a single post.

I hinted that there was a massive backstory to my current situation that I didn’t share in my original post. For reasons that will become clear, I’ve lots of time on my hands right now so here is that story. The info some of you have requested is buried in here somewhere. You’ll have to read through it though 😊 Enjoy!

Following Dad’s death, I sent all the necessary legal paperwork back to the DVLA sensitive casework team to request a new V5 in my name. Worried by reports that DVLA processing of this type can take up to 2-3 months my wife and I decided to leave the car at the family home in Wales and wait for the new V5 to arrive before trying to sell it. I know I probably could have sold the car before the DVLA finished processing the paperwork, but the car has a personalised registration plate of J1 GAJ so I also want to transfer that and sell it separately. I figured this would require more DVLA processing and an even longer wait. Plenty of time to think through what I want to do with the car.

We also have a summer business to open and run in Montenegro, so, a few weeks ago, fully loaded with all sorts of stuff, we started the drive back to Montenegro in our Nissan X-Trail. 2 Hours into France the X-Trail started to smoke reeeally badly. We stopped and got towed to the nearest Nissan garage, but, despite me warning them of the dangerously high fuel/oil mix, they started the car the following morning and sent it into diesel overrun. With a Gaelic shrug they advised me it was beyond repair.

Stranded with all our stuff (the X-trail was now little more than a small shipping container), we arranged to be towed back to the UK. My wife returned to Wales to serve out the mandatory 10 day quarantine. Myself and the X-Trail went to a friend’s farm in Bucks. The plan was to serve out my quarantine in a caravan in the middle of a field whilst trying to fix the car myself. I’m glad to report that the overrun didn’t do any major damage. I drained and refilled the oil and she started first time! It didn’t sound like a box of nails but was still smoking like a trooper.

Having stripped down the top end and removed the injectors (no mean feat when the only major mechanical work I’ve done before was a rebuild of a Honda CB125 motorcyle back in the late 70’s 😊 ) I’m pretty confident one or more of the injectors is the root of the problem. They’ve been sent to a Bosch specialist for testing and I’m expecting expensive news this coming Friday. Best case scenario, all I’ll need is new injector seals. Surely my luck must change soon.

In the meantime, I’ve got the Jag V5 back!!! Unsurprisingly, scanners and photo processing facilities are not available in the field I currently call home but tell me what specific details you need to know and I’ll send them. At the moment, I can barely get an internet or mobile phone signal. However, our 10 day quarantine ends on Tuesday. At which point, my wife will drive the Jag from Wales to Bucks. The car is road legal (MOT’d until March 2022) and we’ll need to use it until the Xtrail is fixed. COVID restrictions permitting, we’ll take the opportunity to head to Essex to check in on my wife’s ailing parents. It’ll put more miles on the Jag, which, at the time of Dads death, was just under 70500 miles. It will also give me a chance to take some pictures and videos of the car. With nothing much else to do I would be happy (within reason) to drive to meet interested buyers (appropriately socially distanced of course 😊 ). If the potential buyer, whose location is listed as France, can give significant commitment we might even be able to deliver it to you there on our way home.

In summary, if anyone is still interested in buying the car and able to wait a few weeks while I get the X-Trail sorted, I’d be happy to hear offers and draw a line under the whole sad saga. I’m still getting to grips with the way this forum works but it seems we could exchange e-mail/phone numbers via private conversations and take it from there. I hope to hear from you and if not … wish me luck. Thanks for reading.
 
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Welcome to the forum and sorry for your loss.
If I were you I would keep the the car no matter the cost if that was your fathers true pride and joy. I know it can be difficult and irrational as it is “just a car” but the emotions envolved with it are not “just”. As the time passes you will appreciate the car more with each day and will be a soothing reminder of your dad. I understand that in Montenegro it can be tricky keeping such a car but the price of dry storage there is a pittance compared to UK prices.
True but it's not that easy to find suitable storage, I've tried before for other personal storage requirements. Also it's a bit more complicated in that I'd need also need to keep it road legal in the UK (taxed, MOT'd and insured) . SORN isn't an option because technically/legally, the vehicle has to be off road at a UK address. Many British immigrants in Montenegro do SORN their vehicles but I'd not feel that comfortable about it. It's either that or declare it as exported. That's not an option either as I would have to import it into Monte and import duties are prohibitively expensive. I'm also advised that I cant import a right hand drive car into Montenegro legally. Again, with the right gangland/mafia connections or substantial bribes it's allegedly possible but again, not a route I'd want to go down - even if I had the right "connections".
 

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Hello & welcome, stay safe.

First, condolences on the loss of your father. What an interesting story, and I hope you get the right solution for you. I’m afraid I’m unable to help at all, other than to suggest that if you want to sell then maybe a good independent Jaguar garage may help.
I have approached the classic/modern classic dealer in Wales who Dad used regularly for his service requirements etc. He offererd to try to sell it for me on a commission basis but was the one who suggested he wouldn't get more then 3-3.5k for it claiming it wasn't a desirable model in the market sector he focussed on. You're right though, I should shop around a bit more now I have more time on my hands. Thanks.
 

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I have approached the classic/modern classic dealer in Wales who Dad used regularly for his service requirements etc. He offererd to try to sell it for me on a commission basis but was the one who suggested he wouldn't get more then 3-3.5k for it claiming it wasn't a desirable model in the market sector he focussed on. You're right though, I should shop around a bit more now I have more time on my hands. Thanks.
You could try giving Swallows Jaguar a call, they may be willing to advise. They are my local Indy who I use, and specialise in the older models. Website here
 

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Welcome. My condolences on the loss of your Dad.

Were it me, I think that I would try to find a way to keep the Jag, but everyone's circumstances differ; you know best. I wish you luck in finding a suitable new home for the car.
 

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You could try giving Swallows Jaguar a call, they may be willing to advise. They are my local Indy who I use, and specialise in the older models. Website here
Big thanks for this. Recommendations are always a better bet than punting through google search results. Anyone else got a favourite?
 
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