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Dear all

Now I have a car after boring you all witless it seems apprpriate to start a new thread. As a jaguar virgin I hope you will be patient with my initial pleadings for advice and assistance.

So car is home after a comvoluted journey from Northern Ireland. Hit a snag with a burst brake pipe above the offside rear wheelarch. Totally clean shiny pipe, just one pit which turned into a hole and completely missed by the MOT inspector a couple of days before. I did a search and only one person has posted about this problem on a US forum so assume its an isolated and unfortunate incident.

First impressions are of a car which although sound by virtue of its quality has been neglected by the last couple of owners. Its last service was 2014 although its only done 1500 miles since, and the telltales like a worn through drivers heel mat indicate that some TLC is in order. Just a couple of quick queries to set me away on the journey;

1. Does anyone have a glovebox manual they don't want as min'es missing? Alternatively is there a link to a manual download? I've had a look ay older threads and all posted links to such things seem to be broken now.

2. Until I find a manual/download does anyone have a link to the recommended service schedule, grades of oil etc etc.

3. Is there such a thing as an online parts manual for pert numbers of trim and fiddly body/interior bits?

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Well done on the new Jaguar.
I have seen the various manuals on ebay as well as the folder. Is everything missing or just some? Have to hope the code for the radio is there though.
Here are some on ebay
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-Jag...126495?hash=item238e4adddf:g:D~EAAOSw5ShZwprV

Although probably more suitable to mine.

For parts, I tend to use SNG Barrett that lists all the available parts for the X350.

Hope this helps.
 

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Hi Mark,
Now that you have got a car the things you need to know can be found as follows:
1) you can download an owner's manual from the Jaguar TOPix site. You have to register but for this sort of documentation it's free. It can even be worth paying for a 1-day access fee for other technical stuff; when you enter your car's VIN you can get specific technical service bulletins and a summary of any outstanding service actions on your car.
2) the service schedule is now posted on this site under 'stickies', it's for 2005 MY but I doubt it's changed much for 2007. Anyway it's 10K miles or 1 year for oil and filter as a minimum; spark plugs at 100K. Don't forget to get the gearbox oil and sump/filter changed every 60K (yours has probably never been done!).
3) I've yet to find an online parts manual but SNG Barratt have a great website and some parts have helpful pictures. Your local main dealer parts department should be able to help as well.
 

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Thanks. I had seen the handbooks on Ebay, just quite surprised how pricey they were! I would have thought as cars get scrapped these become available but perhaps its only the shrewd who remeber to keep such items. Or maybe mines been hawked on Ebay already!

I saw the Topix thing but couldn't figure if it was for dealers/garages.

That Barratt site looks great for new stuff, thanks.

Is there a good breaker for harder to find stuff or is it prettty much all still available from Jaguar (at a price!). I'm thinking I need the cupholder insert and *** lighters/socket caps. The story goes that the last owner was so particular he took them out as he didn't want anyone smoking or drinking in the car! From the lack of history and recepts I reckon its more likely just been lost, but hey it sounds good! Also missing/broken are a few covers for maintenance like the fluid reservoirs and the wiring by your right foot in the well.
 

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I had seen the handbooks on Ebay, just quite surprised how pricey they were! I would have thought as cars get scrapped these become available but perhaps its only the shrewd who remeber to keep such items. Or maybe mines been hawked on Ebay already!
If you actually want a hard copy book rather than the information it contains then it may be possible to get one from your Jaguar main dealer if there's old stock around (did this with an X300 handbook long after it was not the current model XJ). If you are happy with an electronic copy I have this for the 2008 model year which I can send you if you PM me your email address.

I saw the Topix thing but couldn't figure if it was for dealers/garages.
Topix is usable by owners as well - you just have to select this option when you register.

Re grades of oil: I forgot to say earlier that you car needs 6.8 litres for a full oil/filter change, SAE 5W30 fully synthetic to Jaguar spec WSS M2C913 - B, or more commonly ACEA A3/B3 or ACEA A1/B1API SL .
 

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Hi Mark, congrats on the new to you Jag, she sounds awesome, but distinct lack of pics?

You don't say how many miles are on her?

You say she may be in need of a little TLC, sounds like a small service will be in order for fluids n filters all round. Gearbox fluids at around 50k, unsure where you're at but presumably due?
Unless you know of any specialist that can do the job using correct oils and techniques etc I'd recommend either Mackies Transmissions, a A1 rated ZF Partner based in Glasow, or perhaps Chris at the Jag Specialist in Doncaster, a top notch Indy.

On a 10 year old car assuming she's done anywhere from 40k - 80k miles thereabouts it'd be a good idea to see what's been done with regard to suspension and bushes etc too as they seem to go through them.

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General Information
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Get in touch with SNG Barratt and give them your details, they'll send you out a parts catalogue as required

Hope things go well and look forward to gearing more and seeing pics

Jim
 

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Hi there

Lack of pics as I got it home in the dark on a rain lashed Sunday night and havent seen it in the daylight since! Also I'm a bit embarrassed about the wheels, which are not to my taste and will be going on the classifieds as soon as possible! I can post up the dealer pics if you like;

It has 76k miles, so not low or high, just middling. The second owner gave it a right hammering sticking 20k on in one year alone.

I'm going to give it a ground up consumables change myself as I'm cynical about "Full Service History" cars, every one of those I've bought have had expensive issues and basic maintenance omitted. To me FSH means once a year someone incapable gives their car to someone who doesn't care about it and hopes for the best. I will take your advice about the gearbox oil change though, I've done a Volvo regularly which is an Aisin Warner not sure on ZFs.

The interior has a type of wood I've not seen except in brochures and I cant remember what its called. Its an orangey colour and quite lovely IMHO. Once I get a brochure for the 2007 year I can know more.

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Congratulations!
The wood is called Satin American Walnut, very rare!
 

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You could keep the wheels, black out the windows and put a big bass speaker in the boot :-D

On a more serious note, I do like the colour.
 

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Hey there,
loving the combo
The exterior is a really nice blue and goes well with the Ivory interior and really like that wood, don't think I've seen much of that around.

I'm worried about your comments though, last owner gave it a right hammering and put 20k on her in one year........I probably do around 15k-20k but she's not hammered, or at least not often lol.

76k miles is low for that age of car so you've certainly done well on that front. At 76k miles the gearbox service should've been done at least once, but probably hasn't and certainly worth doing.
You would do well to bear in mind the differential, mines was dry as a bone at 62k miles when I bought the car and replaced shortly afterwards at a cost of £3500 or so incl new propshaft etc. There's probably no drain plug but mine was temporarily done by using an oil extractor or similar to remove the old oil / gunge etc via the fill plug and refill with fresh oil. It's not overly expensive and doing that maybe 2 or 3 times should remove the bulk of the old oil and replenish with new product.

I'm totally with you on the FSH and how some people view that, "To me FSH means once a year someone incapable gives their car to someone who doesn't care about it and hopes for the best."
sums up my feelings exactly, so the basic service items will probably pay dividends AND more importantly, YOU KNOW it's been done and you have a clean slate to start from.

Any wear on the drivers side door seal around waist height? Fairly common and I had to replace mine.
I would imagine at 76k miles as these tend to be fairly heavy on suspension items, that unless done recently you may be in line to do some of that work shortly, something to consider looking at.

I'm also with you on the wheels, not to my taste either and she'll potentially benefit from a swap, they look like 20"'s
Can you confirm if they are and also what size you'll be going with, 18"s for comfort or 20"s for the look and also what style do you fancy?
Presumably Jaguar OEM?
 

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Nice looking car. I too like the colour but not the wheels. Re the door seal, mine was showing damage at waist height so I just took it off and moved it round so that the worn bit was down by the bottom door hinge and not so noticeable.
 

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You could keep the wheels, black out the windows and put a big bass speaker in the boot :-D

On a more serious note, I do like the colour.
Haha yes they are a bit BLIIIIING for me. However just as I scratch my head as to why anyone would fite them over a 2nd hand set of genuine alloys I spot a Sovereign on Autotrader the other day with the same ones. So each to their own etc.
 

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Jim, I'll bear in mind the diff.

If I'm being picky I can hear possibly the first hum of a front right wheels bearing. Looks an easy though expensive swap of the entire hub. It could have miles to go yet though.

The leather isn't ivory, its more beige so assuming "biscuit " or "oatmeal" in whatever jaguar parlance of the time was. I really didn't want the garish black/white footballer WAG interiors of the new millennium, and it matches the headlining which is unmarked amazingly. Its never been smoked in as far as can be ascertained.

Wheels are 20" Wolfrace with Dunlop rubber, all nearly new sadly! I'm going to replace them with 19" Sabres and Michelins, although I could borrow a friends 20" Selenas temporarily until the Wolfies are sold and the piggy bank replenished.
 

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To me FSH means once a year someone incapable gives their car to someone who doesn't care about it and hopes for the best.
I am one of those incapable people. I don't like working on cars. Dirty, rusty things where the mechanical bits are and awkward to work on at home. I do enjoy working on bikes though. Happily service my Suzuki though it needs a laptop to balance the throttle bodies. HD is more basic though servicing is more often and has separate engine, gearbox and primary case oil to change. Also being a push rod engine there were lots of parts to remove when it came to replacing the cams and bearings.

Incapable, more cannot be bothered. :-D
 

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Sorry didn't mean to offend anyone, mechanical empathy is not a prerequisite to enjoying cars, and plenty of people have other skills to ensure they earn far more and have nicer cars than I ever will.

However I do get sick of FSHs being trumpeted as the be-all and and-all, and the same old lines flung around forums and TV shows (puts Quentin Willson voice on) "and don't even consider one without a sheaf of dealer invoices" etc etc.

e.g. One guy in a similar discussion on the Pistonheads forums mentioned that as a YTS trainee mechanic (remember them?) one of his first jobs was to change the brakes on a newish Porsche 911 Turbo.

Without fail every single FSH car I've ever owned has had seized or ineffective rear brakes or handbrakes.

FSH an indication, but buying any car is still a gamble
 

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Sorry didn't mean to offend anyone, mechanical empathy is not a prerequisite to enjoying cars, and plenty of people have other skills to ensure they earn far more and have nicer cars than I ever will.

However I do get sick of FSHs being trumpeted as the be-all and and-all, and the same old lines flung around forums and TV shows (puts Quentin Willson voice on) "and don't even consider one without a sheaf of dealer invoices" etc etc.

e.g. One guy in a similar discussion on the Pistonheads forums mentioned that as a YTS trainee mechanic (remember them?) one of his first jobs was to change the brakes on a newish Porsche 911 Turbo.

Without fail every single FSH car I've ever owned has had seized or ineffective rear brakes or handbrakes.

FSH an indication, but buying any car is still a gamble
Lol don't think you offended anyone in general or bikerbore in particular.....just a bit of banter I'd say.

As I said before totally with you on that aspect. FSH is NOT the be all and end all, in fact there's an argument for the reverse side of the coin.
Audi for example stated to change my air filter and fuel filter every 40k miles!
Jaguar and a few other manufacturers say "sealed for life" when we all know different
etc etc etc

I would, in all honesty rather buy my car from someone who has a stack of receipts for EVERYTHING. The service book will not have all dealer stamps, but there's a paper trail fro absolutely every nut, bolt, washer etc and or excel spreadsheets to back this up.

My car isn't perfect, but she's loved n looked after in the best way possible. There seems to be at least another dozen or so members on this site that seem to take a similar approach.
There is receipts for everything that's been done, paperwork for every part, nut, bolt, washer or wiper every purchased. These are usually combined with "partial history" in the service book etc as well as the Excel spreadsheet. The spreadsheet usually gives the following information of part / product or service purchased / date / mileage and or costs incurred.

The above coupled with an enthusiasts thread outlining and confirming even further the receipts and work done with costs / mileages etc show about as clear a picture as you ever hope to see
I'd take that over FSH any day of the week and twice on Sunday, but each to their own

Jim
 
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