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The joy of Jaguar ownership continues with a visit to the MoT station this morning, confident that all the issues have been sorted and that it'll fly through...but no.

The offside (drivers) rear door just will not open. It opened fine last week, but now, nothing. Not using the outside handle or the inside one. Locking and unlocking with the blipper makes no difference.

I've got the interior trim off, and pulling the internal handle I can hear movement at the lock end, which suggests to me that the cable isn't broken.

Lifting the outside handle it seems "loose" and doesn't seem to "pick up" on anything. The other side handle has quite a "chunky" feel to it by comparison.

So can anyone tell me what might be the problem and how to get the damned thing open?
 

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Just a guess as I'm not familiar with the S Type set up but looking at the parts catalogue the only part common to the outer door handle and the inner handle is the latch (the outer acts directly on the latch via a link, the inner via cable). I'd start by removing the outer hande which is held on (as far as I can see) by a couple of bolts from inside the door. You may then be able to see what's wrong and disassemble further as necessary.
 

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Thanks guys...the problem is that with the door stuck shut, I can't get to the three screws that hold the latch unit in place so I can't remove it. I'll see if I can get the outer handle off with the latch still in place and peer into the abyss...hopefully something obvious;y broken will be apparent!
 

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this may have no bearing since its a totally diffent car, my saab passenger door was locked and unabled to be opened from inside or outside for about 2 months, then the other day it had a low battery and when i tried to start car it was struggling to turn over when it almost died and at that moment all the lights on dash flickered and central locking made a noise and since then the door has released and can now be opened manually atleast. Again might not help atall but it is similar.
 

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the outer handle is slack when locked,

It sounds like the door is deadlocked, its a case usually of battering the motor casing off and manualy spinning the cogs. someone has done this in the last year,,
 

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Argh! That sounds like fun...but I'm going to disconnect the battery overnight and see if it frees-up when I re-connect it. At least then I should be able to get it out and change it.
 

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You could try a load of wd40 ( or other leading brand ) into the motor housing. May also be worth tapping the motor whilst unlocking, or at least using an engineers stethoscope to here if there is any noise from the motor.

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The Unlock wire should be White and either (Blue or Black) May be worth seeing if that gets a voltage or Tied to ground.

Not sure if the motor is expecting +Ve or ground trigger.

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Argh! That sounds like fun...but I'm going to disconnect the battery overnight and see if it frees-up when I re-connect it. At least then I should be able to get it out and change it.
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Read through the threads I gave you, it's been done already in the original problem threads that one of them gives links to.
 

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Read through the threads I gave you, it's been done already in the original problem threads that one of them gives links to.
But the OPs door is locked shut, I don't see mention of that in the other threads unless I have skipped over it.
 

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Thanks Jim, I did review the threads you linked to but as TT says, they're all lucky enough to be able to open the door to get to the three retaining screws....I can't at the moment.
 

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Well, there's news.

I've not been able to get it out as yet, but can confirm that disconnecting the battery overnight didn't help.

So far, squirting WD40 into the latch unit as best I can and exercising the unit hasn't helped.

I can confirm that the lock/unlock signal is present and correct on the connector Pins 2 & 10. It's a bipolar signal, so with your red probe on the top you should get a pulse of +12V for unlock and -12V for lock.

The connector is a bit of a bugger to get off with the latch unit in place, it's worth knowing that it has one of those little red tabs on the bottom that you have to pull back in order to get it off.
 

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Had another look at it today and cannot for the life of me see how I can even smash it to get it out.

There's various bits of ironmongery in front of the latch unit itself, and even if I could get that out of the way I can't see how I could get a tool in to it and have enough room to swing a hammer.

I hate to say it, but unless anyone has any bright ideas I'm going to have to get a professional on to it... :cry:
 

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Sorry for the long delay.

I thought I had put links to old threads in one of those stickies but my pal Al Zheimer... ;)

Here you go, and I've put them in the Stickies thread too.

Rear door locked solid?

Here are associated threads with some of the ways others found to open the door...

http://www.jaguarforum.com/showthread.php?t=6440

http://www.jaguarforum.com/showthread.php?t=9500

http://www.jaguarforum.com/showthread.php?t=67224

http://www.jaguarforum.com/showthread.php?t=40147

http://www.jaguarforum.com/showthread.php?t=40122

http://www.jaguarforum.com/showthread.php?t=42505

http://www.jaguarforum.com/showthread.php?t=82837

http://www.jaguarforum.com/showthread.php?t=101003

http://www.jaguarforum.com/showthread.php?t=60986

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Do you a Polish friend? If so ask them if they know anybody who could help you. They are very good at getting into cars that are locked.

Before anybody complains I am not being nasty to Poles, my wife comes from Poland and it is amazing what they can do with cars. I had a problem with one of my keys not working and a Polish lock smith was able to clone it in half an hour so that I could get home with a fully functioning new key. The spare key was on the key shelf 650 km away.
 

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Thanks guys, especially Jim for your search-fu! :)

After perusing those threads the only actual suggestion is to try banging on the door near the lock while unlocking the door with the blipper. Tried that for 1/2 hour with no joy.

I've got a mate who has a mate that works at a Jaguar dealership and he is going to ask if there are any "tricks of the trade" I could try. Failing that, I've got a nice set of cobalt drills (that I needed to buy in order to drill out all the snapped bolts on this car) and a new cutting disc in the grinder... :mrgreen:
 
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