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I think my last thread caused a bit of stink. Apologies for this, i deleted it. Thanks for taking your time to ear bash me, was merly boasting about the performance of my Jaguar. Didnt mean to cause upset. Many thanks to the few who tried to defend me.

I'll hang low for the time being,

Ryan
 

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Haha cheers :) Advice clearly noted in brain :D

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We all do daft things from time to time. Sorry for calling you a nob-head, nob-head! ;)
 

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You are man enough to appologise so i hope we are man enough to accept.


We all love speed or else we would not buy a jag. But seriously, if you want to find out how well you car goes, take a track day out.

When I was in my 40s, I thought I knew everything about driving but had the oppertunity to do two things.

The first was a 2 day off road Land Rover course. After 15 years in the army, I thought I knew how to drive a Land Rover. Wrong.....

The next one was a weekend at Goodwood. Wow, is all I can say. I knew nothing about driving at speed. The highlight was a lesson with Stirling Moss. That guy is just about the greatest I have ever seen. Even after his accident and years later, he has forgotten more about driving at speed than I will ever know.

Now when I want a bit of fun, it's off for a track day at our local airfield.
 

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Your heavy right foot and 1000w amp profile = lamp post / tree with your name on it. No problem with that.
What i do have a problem with is when speed nuts wreck other peoples lives,i speak as one who's family has suffered.
Slow down Ryan.
 

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Thanks, and sorry again. I will take note of all your advice and learn from it. As a sufferer from a major accident back in my younger teens, with a friend driving, he over took a car doing silly speeds on a silly road and ended up sideways into a taxi. I ended up having to be cut from the car, in an old n reg punto, having fractured my spine in 4 places. I fully recovered, just, luckily, but still suffer from lower back pains and i guess i always will as a result of it.

I guess i was trying to play big man in my jag and was not thinking of the consequences at the time. I just took advantage of the moment and went for it. I'll be removing the heavy right foot from my profile, only me being immature anyway.

Talking about trackdays - i had an eventful day today at oulton park. The british touring cars was on and got speaking to a few about the track day events. Seems good what they have to offer and will definately be looking into it. I think my car has felt it today tho, got home and now the fuel pumps have given up. The fuel guage has been playing up for the past week, so only my own fault i guess and boy have i learnt it.

Back when my gramps was here, he had an old range rover defender on a E reg i think. We used to take it up north wales and had many hours of fun driving up and down the mountains! Although it was not proper off roading, compared to some, it sure scared the bejesus out of me a few times!

You are very lucky to have had a lesson of sir Stirling Moss, a legend in himself and one of my favorite all time racing drivers. Memories are for life, and i'm sure that will remain with you forever. I've been privileged to meet Quenton Wilson and Tiff Needel while filming for fifth gear many years ago, but they're nothing on Moss.

Heres to future happy motoring (just),

Ryan
 

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Track days are good, so are drag runs up airstrips, the famous nurburgring, which I have done and been a passenger in an Aston Martin Rapide, funny going 4 up round that circuit overtaking Porsche's etc.

I did an advanced driving course through work with the local Police a few years ago, driving up to 100mph along country lanes, blues on, had to try call out hazards and commands, too much for me, needless to say I failed it lol.

Just stick to 77mph* on the motorways and you'll be fine. (*10% error)
 

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Ian, sounds like great fun. Its been my dream to take the jag around the ring for years but never got the chance as yet. What type of work do you do to get the chance to ride in a cop car with blues n two's on? Very lucky! Love to try something like that
 

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Lol funny Cambo, view my profile it says in the occupation part of it what I do for a living, hence why I live in Germany, i did not choose to be here of my own accord, but it has its plus points! That driving course is a required skill in a branch of the Corps, which I failed, but I do intend to try again to get into.
 

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I would warn people from going to track days in their road cars.. the tyres are not racing tyres, suspension is massively below par for what is required, usually the transmission will also be at a massive disadvantage... the weight of a road car also strains the car whilst on track..

you have not got a harness, no roll cage, no fire system, usually no FIA racing suit either...

I would never advise a track day event without the minimal items above........... but there are those that do...
 

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At the track days I have been to, no one was allowed on the track until their car had been inspected, they had had several laps with a qualified instructor (first timers), they had to wear a crash helmet and satisfied the organisers that they met the minimum standards. Any deviation from this or any dangerous driving and you are out; it is as simple as that. If you do not want to risk your own car, there are specially prepared cars that you can hire and take instruction in. I would also advise taking further courses in driving skills such as the advanced motorists or IAMs/RoSPA for bikers.

They main point of recommending track days is to take excessive speed off the road and put it in a controlled environment. Then if someone wants to push their car beyond its limits and damage it, it’s their lookout. Also, you are given expert knowledge on driving, preparing your car, observation and positioning. As a keen motorcyclist as well as a driver I feel that this applies more to bikers as they are very vulnerable in the event of an accident and do tend to take more risks on the public roads.

Fatalities at track days do happen but are rare and if you listen to the instructors, it can only improve your handling capabilities. I would rather anyone wanting to drive their car at high speeds do it at a track day where it can be controlled to a certain degree and the general driving/riding public are not put at risk.

Of course, there are always those who prefer to terrorise the public and these people will never learn until they have killed themselves and others with them. Thankfully, people do listen to good advice and the numbers at track days are increasing each year.
 

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Some great advice there guys, unfortunately, the jag doesn't sound the best option to take to a track day!
 

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I did an advanced driving course through work with the local Police a few years ago, driving up to 100mph along country lanes, blues on, had to try call out hazards and commands, too much for me, needless to say I failed it lol.
Not as easy as it looks is it. As with the track day lessons, you learn things that you never knew. Those trees still go past at the same speed though!
Keep it on the black stuff.
 

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Went to a track day near Loughborough last year. Wanted to try an Audi R8 and my son drove a Ferrari 350. Unfortunately the R8 was not available when I got there. I had to take out a Lamborghini Gallardo instead :D. Great experience from what is a road car. Tuition was from a qualified/licensed racing driver. Interestingly, without speeding, this has helped my road driving. Knowing how to position the car correctly on corners etc. has, I'm sure, helped me to improve my mpg. It's not always about the speed.
 

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Exactly. You'll learn how to drive fast without necessarily speeding. How to balance the car, how to place it on the road. How to get round corners safely.

I think everyone should go on some sort of advanced course because it would make the roads a lot safer for us all.
 

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It's not always about the speed.
Why not just take a fiesta around the track then? Surely you could learn how to turn corners in 1 of those ;) or would it just be to slow? I thought racing was all about the speed, because thats what all this leads too...
 

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I thought racing was all about the speed, because thats what all this leads too...
As do most people. But ask yourself a question. Why do the fastest F1 cars not always win the race? Those timed the fastest in the speed traps do not always finish the lap the quickest. If you want straight line speed, it has to be drag racing.

It is all about balance. Engine performance, suspension, aerodynamics, tyres and of course the ability of the driver.

That's why Sabrina Schmidt made Jeremy Clarkson look a complete novice when she almost beat his Jaguar time at the Nurburgring in a transit van.

All hail the beautiful Sabrina Schmidt
 
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