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Its quiet on here so want to play a diagnostic game? My car is in the garage having a diagnostic done to determine the disposal method of my car. Either repair and sell or sell as spares or repair before I get my next one. I've been looking for cars the past week, nothing is interesting me. So it's a jag again which type I do not know but a jag it will most likely be. Seen a nice x type sovereign 3l petrol auto and also a nice XJ petrol 4.2 but I digress, was one S type but Im not sure about the grill.

There's no prize I'll let you know when I do. Test your grey matter.
Here's what it did.
I was warming it up and after a rev it made a ticking sound like an empty machine gun when it was reving down.
It was sluggish reversing out of my drive and all the following was within 14 miles.
It wasn't as smooth as it usually was, felt a vibration in the steering wheel and the ride wasnt smooth. Noticably, but not excessive. Felt like an old generic car. Fiesta and so on.
Put my foot down and Glow plug light came on and EML. Car stopped.
Tried to start it again. On turning key to position 2 All lights went out except the EML
Car started EML light went out.
Ticked over fine I put the thing in gear ( manual) put some throttle. Flashing glowplug light EML light and stalled.
Started again was same as before with the lights. Ticking noise has gone.
Tried to move it. it did although EML light was on.
I was in a good place to stop so didn't push further. Just in case, next layby is a mile or so away.
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Clues? The battery went flat when I picked it up from the last repair. I gathered that was cos it's been there sitting for a month. It went flat again after it broke down last month after sitting with hazzard on listening to the radio, 4 hours that time If I remember right.

Sat in car with hazards and radio on for 3 hours. battery was flat time the AA guy got there. So can we believe the many codes he said was on there for everything including 2 injectors.
Seems the battery flattens fast. just listening to the cds Again if failure it is very sudden.

I'm going for injectors due to the slight lack of power at first and that ticking, but a complete fail that fast?

Playing? If you don't want to don't be nasty no need for nasty comments " you said your getting rid of it why do you care" for example. Just don't play. I'm just bored and miss talking Jag
 
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Battery? Seriously, they can give some weird symptoms when misbehaving.

Whatever it turns out to be I hope the fix is quick and painless :)
 

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I’d be checking the main cables from the battery. These have been known to corrode on the inside as time goes by, a simple resistance test would confirm one way or the other.
 

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Its quiet on here so want to play a diagnostic game? My car is in the garage having a diagnostic done to determine the disposal method of my car. Either repair and sell or sell as spares or repair before I get my next one. I've been looking for cars the past week, nothing is interesting me. So it's a jag again which type I do not know but a jag it will most likely be. Seen a nice x type sovereign 3l petrol auto and also a nice XJ petrol 4.2 but I digress, was one S type but Im not sure about the grill.

There's no prize I'll let you know when I do. Test your grey matter.
Here's what it did.
I was warming it up and after a rev it made a ticking sound like an empty machine gun when it was reving down.
It was sluggish reversing out of my drive and all the following was within 14 miles.
It wasn't as smooth as it usually was, felt a vibration in the steering wheel and the ride wasnt smooth. Noticably, but not excessive. Felt like an old generic car. Fiesta and so on.
Put my foot down and Glow plug light came on and EML. Car stopped.
Tried to start it again. On turning key to position 2 All lights went out except the EML
Car started EML light went out.
Ticked over fine I put the thing in gear ( manual) put some throttle. Flashing glowplug light EML light and stalled.
Started again was same as before with the lights. Ticking noise has gone.
Tried to move it. it did although EML light was on.
I was in a good place to stop so didn't push further. Just in case, next layby is a mile or so away.
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Clues? The battery went flat when I picked it up from the last repair. I gathered that was cos it's been there sitting for a month. It went flat again after it broke down last month after sitting with hazzard on listening to the radio, 4 hours that time If I remember right.

Sat in car with hazards and radio on for 3 hours. battery was flat time the AA guy got there. So can we believe the many codes he said was on there for everything including 2 injectors.
Seems the battery flattens fast. just listening to the cds Again if failure it is very sudden.

I'm going for injectors due to the slight lack of power at first and that ticking, but a complete fail that fast?

Playing? If you don't want to don't be nasty no need for nasty comments " you said your getting rid of it why do you care" for example. Just don't play. I'm just bored and miss talking Jag
Hope you find the fix and get her sorted for much cheapness LG then decide from there.

Seems like you may stick with the brand after all, maybe an XJ X350 / 358 would be a good call.
Or......There are some high mileage, but very good examples of XJ X351's out there. I know of one for example that will be going shortly, albeit at high mileage, but with a ton of money spent on her and well looked after, for not a lot of money.

Cheers
Jim
 

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I’m more of a petrol amateur diagnoser, despite owning a diesel for the past 4+ years. Thankfully reliable so far. Curious why two injectors would fail suddenly: I realise things fail eventually but hmm….
Battery and associated systems would be my first call. Could be wrong, usually am…..
 
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Can't believe how unlucky you have been I have owned 4 X's over 13 years and you seem to have had more problems in your short ownership than I have had in all of that time, hope you get it going and I would go with checking the +VE lead from the battery to starter motor to alternator it failed on my 2.0D and gave similar symptoms
 
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Battery is my first port of call in a few hours when I phone them. I'll just get them to put one on and check the alternator. I did actually suspect that in a small way, after my initial post and with what everyone has said. The battery looks way too small for the car after seeing the size of jag batteries.
Let's hope it's just that and I can use it once a fortnight it while I'm waiting for it to go on its merry way to a new owner. Who will be warned I will add. It's had 3 grand spent on it in 18 months 1k from me in the four out of 5 months it's been on the road. This one needs a real Jag lover. I'm not even going to start on about the headlining being the new one I noticed before it broke again.

@cam yep unreal. Never had a car so bad. This one is a pig for sure. Only other two that caused me hassle like this was my Austin princess that lasted a month before the engine went. That was broken for spares and sent to the crusher. And my 3.0 ford Granada back in 79 (74 plate) I spent a small fortune on that, more than it was actually worth, but I was a kid back then and didn't have restraint like now. Then it caught fire. Never got the money back I spent with the insurance it was pitiful.
 

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Hope you find the fix and get her sorted for much cheapness LG then decide from there.

Seems like you may stick with the brand after all, maybe an XJ X350 / 358 would be a good call.
Or......There are some high mileage, but very good examples of XJ X351's out there. I know of one for example that will be going shortly, albeit at high mileage, but with a ton of money spent on her and well looked after, for not a lot of money.

Cheers
Jim
I've seen a couple of stunning X358's going, one was £17k, 4.2Ltr 75k miles, the other two in the £11k to £13k range. No idea if they are taking the proverbial or if that is a fair price range for those cars?
 

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I know this game. The rules say you have to go straight to the Garage and don't collect £200. Then you have to pay the banker, or something like that. Chances are you'll go bankrupt. Then it's game over. If you throw a six you get another go. Your turn.
 

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I know this game. The rules say you have to go straight to the Garage and don't collect £200. Then you have to pay the banker, or something like that. Chances are you'll go bankrupt. Then it's game over. If you throw a six you get another go. Your turn.
You forgot the part about throwing 3x 6's and failing the MOT...

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I think I rolled 4 ones.

I've seen a couple of stunning X358's going, one was £17k, 4.2Ltr 75k miles, the other two in the £11k to £13k range. No idea if they are taking the proverbial or if that is a fair price range for those cars?
I've seen some right crackers while I've been looking but some are silly prices like you've mentioned. To be honest even though I do like the old shape, and not adverse to the new one. If I was going to spend 17 grand on a car wouldn't be almost 18 years old that's for sure, I'd get a newer shape one. They might have lowish mileage but still are old cars.
 

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I think I rolled 4 ones.


I've seen some right crackers while I've been looking but some are silly prices like you've mentioned. To be honest even though I do like the old shape, and not adverse to the new one. If I was going to spend 17 grand on a car wouldn't be almost 18 years old that's for sure, I'd get a newer shape one. They might have lowish mileage but still are old cars.

18 grand gets you a 16 plate 3.0D Portfolio with 97k on the clock, 16 grand gets you a stunning 55 plate Super V8 with 68k on the clock, but like you say, 16k for a 18 year old car is too much.
 

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18 grand gets you a 16 plate 3.0D Portfolio with 97k on the clock, 16 grand gets you a stunning 55 plate Super V8 with 68k on the clock, but like you say, 16k for a 18 year old car is too much.
I think it depends on how far into the future you want to look and what you intend to do with the car doesn't it? The Super V8 will be a true classic one day, the 3 litre diesel won't. Try and get an average 50yr old E-Type for 18k never mind a stunning one. .
 

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I think it depends on how far into the future you want to look and what you intend to do with the car doesn't it? The Super V8 will be a true classic one day, the 3 litre diesel won't. Try and get an average 50yr old E-Type for 18k never mind a stunning one. .
Good point. I suppose, thinking about it, I'd plump for the Super V8, as it should hold its value, although with the push for electric, I wonder if there will be any demand for petrol cars in the future? I do hope so, as I'm yet to be convinced EV's are the correct solution.

I much prefer the looks of the X358, its why I love my X Type, as it looks like a "proper" Jag, the later models could be anything. The XE to me could easily wear a Ford badge and I saw an F Pace in a car park today and I thought it was a Ford Kuga at first.

If I do change my X, I will be looking at an X358 around a 58/09 plate, as I'm quite happy to own a car of that age.
 

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I think it depends on how far into the future you want to look and what you intend to do with the car doesn't it? The Super V8 will be a true classic one day, the 3 litre diesel won't. Try and get an average 50yr old E-Type for 18k never mind a stunning one. .
Never thought of cars as an investment always as a tool. Thats interesting. I never look that far ahead with them.
Only two things I've speculated on but will not be fruitful in my lifetime are a numbered special edition boxed bottle of whisky and a FAB 1 still in its packing. The only Rolls Royce I'm likely to own.

I saw an F Pace in a car park today and I thought it was a Ford Kuga at first.

If I do change my X, I will be looking at an X358 around a 58/09 plate, as I'm quite happy to own a car of that age.
Agree with the F pace. I see that and actually feel sad, Where's the Jag gone?
I'm looking for a nice X350 right now. Being patient and taking my time with the next one. The red X was a had to buy a car when my old one broke. I jumped in too fast.
 
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I'm looking for a nice X350 right now. Being patient and taking my time with the next one. The red X was a had to buy a car when my old one broke. I jumped in too fast.
Should be more than a few X350 / X358 kicking about, hope you find a good one

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Its quiet on here so want to play a diagnostic game? My car is in the garage having a diagnostic done to determine the disposal method of my car. Either repair and sell or sell as spares or repair before I get my next one. I've been looking for cars the past week, nothing is interesting me. So it's a jag again which type I do not know but a jag it will most likely be.
Just when you think you are out, they pull you back in! :)

Clues? The battery went flat when I picked it up from the last repair. I gathered that was cos it's been there sitting for a month. It went flat again after it broke down last month after sitting with hazzard on listening to the radio, 4 hours that time If I remember right.
Your battery's probably fragged. When mine went all sorts of weird stuff started to happen including phantom faults.

On one occasion it went into limp mode and the speedo stopped recording altogether, just sat on the pin. Managed to limp it back home and borrowed Mam's Golf to get to work. On getting back home later in the day the X-Type deigned to start without issue. Lack of use at the time probably didn't help and neither did Lockdown later. I ended up buying a fancy charger and charging the battery with it every fortnight but in the end decided to cut the crap and bought a brand new battery from the RAC. Been fine since.

Maybe buy a new battery, keeping the old one, and see if the new battery makes a difference. If it doesn't put the old battery back in Bic and you have a brand new battery when you turn out to be unable to resist that shiny 59-Plate X-Type Sov you know you will be unable to resist buying. :D
 
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Battery is my first port of call in a few hours when I phone them. I'll just get them to put one on and check the alternator. I did actually suspect that in a small way, after my initial post and with what everyone has said. The battery looks way too small for the car after seeing the size of jag batteries.
Do you mean small as in physical size? The battery should pretty much fill the box. I forget who it was now but one of our members on here opened his X-Type's battery box after it started to act up and was astonished to find that the battery was nearly half the size that it should've been - someone had just whacked in a battery out of a hot hatch or something. What was more surprising was that the car had been starting fine with that battery for months until it eventually started to give up the unequal struggle.
 
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