Hello Jag-fans,

I am Ducloi, new here and planning to trade my Volvo S80 for a Jag S 2.7d.
Could anyone tell me what the main problems are and what to look for when
buying a Jag S 2.7 ?

Thanks in Advance,

Ducloi

As far as I'm aware going by my car, not too many problems. Mine is a 2004 Diesel and done just over 103,000 miles, the engine has never sounded so good, unbelievably quiet sometimes I forget I'm in a diesel. I've heard there are problems with the later euro 4 engines with the diesel particulate filter. Only a few have been affected with major engine failures. I think with the DPF engines they suffer problems if you only do short journeys, but I assume you are buying the diesel to save money on fuel therefore covering some decent mileage. Other problems to be aware if your going for the Auto box is the dreaded lurch. If you google this there is a dedicated website to this problem and there are posts on here including some I have posted myself. Other than that just make sure there is a full service history with the car, go for it you will never look back.

 

Another problem that has been highlighted a few times on this forum and SO cheap to sort is cold starting.

When the temperature is freezing, they sometimes take a bit of starting, prompting you to worry about the glow plugs etc. Well it is far simpler than that.

The outside temperature probe is prone to telling porkies, and replacing it is less than a fiver and you can fit yourself in 5 secs. That normally cures it.

(The way the injectors work in these engines means the glowplugs are not as important as on some diesel engines anyway. Being piezo operated, they rely on high pressure delivery and squirt more than once per cycle through a port thinner than a human hair. So the mist is very light in the cylinder anyway, and so has a lower density to begin with, hence the glow plugs are not as useful as in some cars.)

I was fascinated as an engineer to look at how Ford developed this engine and the injector system, leading to smooth low rattle operation. Mine is an 05 with 40K on the clock. It was one of the last before DPF was fitted, (the hand book says it is a DPF model, but the exhaust tail pipes say not.) The engine is not only smooth, but the torque is incredible. Pulling away is relaxed and easy.

The only thing I would say is that the fuel economy relies on steady driving. Squirt it and it not only behaves like a petrol, it drinks like one too. That said, I have averaged over 40mpg on a long run, and cannot say fairer than that. (Had a tank average 24 mpg too)

 

Two very good posts, I`d buy one myself if I didn`t have one

 

The main problem is drving everywhere with a grin on your face, and trying not to feel SO superior to the lesser cars all around you.

I STILL walk over to the window, just to have a look at those classic sporty lines !

 

The main problem is drving everywhere with a grin on your face, and trying not to feel SO superior to the lesser cars all around you.

I STILL walk over to the window, just to have a look at those classic sporty lines !

Thank God for that. I thought I was going around the bend! :lol:

 

Just had my S type diesel sport for about 6 weeks now after having an X for 2 and a half years. My god what a difference ! No problems so far and reading this forum in general it would appear that the S is mostly reliable compared to most other jags and other makes. Go for the S - you will be missing out on a truly great experience if you dont. I know I have'nt had mine long enough to have any bad experiences yet but I cant put into words how good it is - I'll shut up now, i'm making myself sick !!

 

The main problem is drving everywhere with a grin on your face, and trying not to feel SO superior to the lesser cars all around you.

I STILL walk over to the window, just to have a look at those classic sporty lines !

Thank God for that. I thought I was going around the bend! :lol:

Over 3 yrs on and I`m still doing it
But mines the best looking S type on this Forum of course :lol:

 

Agree with all of the above the car is fantastic.

Usual rules apply regards buying go for a Jaguar Approved and you'll get a 12 month warranty to give you piece of mind.

Excellent cars however steer clear of Mercury Alloys if you dont like spending a lot of time cleaning wheels

 

Excellent cars however steer clear of Mercury Alloys if you dont like spending a lot of time cleaning wheels

I`ll definately go along with that !
They look the buisness when they`re clean no doubt, but keeping them clean :roll:
I`ve spent a small fortune on brushes,cleaners and sealants

 

I just have seen one S-type 2.7D which I really like, but
the engine wasn't very powerful, it has lost a lot of power really !
The engine revved quite fast, but it just wasn't going as fast as it should be.
The throttle pedal was also veeeeeeeeery hard to push down.

Does anyone know what the problem could be ?

The main problem is that the engine has a power lost, although it turns around quite smoothly,
and the gas pedal is also very heavy to push down.


I really liked this particular S-type,
but is it a wise decision to buy this particular car ?

 

I think you answered your own question there.......... :?

 

but is it a wise decision to buy this particular car ?

Unless you are positve what the problem is and how much to fix, you want to leave it alone, theres plenty more.

 

I just have seen one S-type 2.7D which I really like, but
the engine wasn't very powerful, it has lost a lot of power really !
The engine revved quite fast, but it just wasn't going as fast as it should be.
The throttle pedal was also veeeeeeeeery hard to push down.

Does anyone know what the problem could be ?

The main problem is that the engine has a power lost, although it turns around quite smoothly,
and the gas pedal is also very heavy to push down.

I really liked this particular S-type,
but is it a wise decision to buy this particular car ?

Bear in mind that these cars will adapt to the way you drive - when I bought my diesel in December, the previous driver had obviously driven the car very sedately - when pressing the accelerator, nothing happened for 5mm or so, then it slowly kicked in. As I don't drive like that, the pedal is now much more responsive at the top end

But you say the pedal is actually difficult to push down, so maybe that's different...?

But I'm very happy with my diesel. I had the 3l petrol (1999) before it; the diesel is quieter in the cabin, and has just as much power, maybe more, than the petrol engine. And even if I drive "aggressively", it's more economical on the fuel. On long runs I get 45mpg+ - I can even make it from London to Plymouth and back on the same tank of fuel - the 3l petrol used to drink a tank each way :|

 

I just have seen one S-type 2.7D which I really like, but
the engine wasn't very powerful, it has lost a lot of power really !
The engine revved quite fast, but it just wasn't going as fast as it should be.
The throttle pedal was also veeeeeeeeery hard to push down.

Does anyone know what the problem could be ?

The main problem is that the engine has a power lost, although it turns around quite smoothly,
and the gas pedal is also very heavy to push down.

I really liked this particular S-type,
but is it a wise decision to buy this particular car ?

NO, it is not a wise decision to buy this particular car. Walk away from it. It doesn't sound right. :wink:

 

If you do short journeys your DPF will clog up. Meant for long distance over 50mpg speed. It will give you problems and low mileage for shot journeys. Otherwise a beautiful drive for a marvellous car. It gives me 50mpg on motorways which i do regularly

 

Hi, I have a 2.7 S type SE Automatic year 2006 with 155,000 miles on the clock. The most important is that any machine can only be as good as the service it was given. This is the important since there are no major problems really. This engine is proven tried and tested in range rovers, citroens, ford cars and needless to say, Jaguar tuned it up even further - its a beauty really. So the one I have was purchased by from the UK (I live in Malta) when it had 122,000 miles on the clock. Why did I by this one. Because it belonged to a medical specialist (one onwner) that always serviced the car regularly at a main dealer and that means that all problems, if any, had been ironed out. But most important (since ultimately, its easy to change the engine ) This one had original spray, impeccable as new interior, no rust at all, and everything looking and functioning as if it were new. Dealing with such issues as rust and climate control and all the rest of it is expensive and could be a time consuming drive without a finish. So buy a well looked after car. I know I paid some 2000 more for it, but I have no regrets. Its a really well looked after car.
Other than this I can assure you that if the 2.7 diesel engine is serviced on time, and as recommended by Jaguar using original consumption parts and the right Oil which is most important for any diesel engine and turbo, you will have no problems at all.
It is a damm reliable car and the torque of the engine couples to its gearbox especially if you switch it to sport mode is out of this world and a pleasure to experience.
Go for it. Just make sure you buy one that was well looked after and has a proven history of being serviced by Jaguar authorised service centre (not dealer- some dealers are not authorised to service them).
Rust. Look under the door sills. Its not easy to see since it is covered with a neat plastic cover. The under body is also mostly covered completely with a plastic cover underneath which, I found a large radiator which I then learned that it is a fuel cooler.
So you have to jack up the car, for sure, to really know.
Some surface rust in the sills or underbody can be easily resolved. BUT if rust in the sills / running board, has eaten parts of it away and in some cases, was allowed to go up to the A and B pillars to which the doors etc are anchored - just get out of there soonest possible.
This is what you need to watch out for !
Hope this helps - ask anything - and Good luck too.

 

The thing is, Kish and Joseph, that this thread is almost 13 years old till Kish raised it from the dead. A new record I believe.

 

 

Oh God, you are right - the resurrection of 2009 in December 2021 LOL
In 2021 you have to make sure it's not infected with covid too
Enjoy everyone.

 

Sorry mate . Enjoy your Jag.