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XF2.2 low temperature

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#1 ·
I've an ELM327 unit linked to my smartphone Torque app, and the temperature reading on my 2014 XF 2.2 after a long run is usually in the range 81-83C. I double checked by replacing the ELM327 with my iCarsoft unit but the low temperatures were confirmed. I am suspecting the thermostat is at fault and as it is still under warranty I'll mention it before I get the next routine service done. Now I am wondering if this is a catch 22 situation. If I am asked how do I know the temperature is low, and I indicate the ELM327, it might be (wrongly) assumed I have altered some operating characteristics which would void the warranty. Not sure where I stand here and need some advice.
 
#2 ·
Afaik, you can’t void the warranty by plugging in a diagnostic computer. It doesn’t reprogram anything, just read values off the network. It’s totally benign.
Id tell them you’ve read it and it seems low, so can they please check it using their system and report back.
 
#3 ·
Hello Carpo. It looks like your running temp is ok. I found the following info on the net.

THERMOSTAT WITH HOUSING SENSOR FOR JAGUAR XF 2.2D (2011-2015) C2S44028
Car : JAGUAR
Opening Temperature : 83 deg;C
Number of Ports : 2
Plastic
With Thermostat, Housing Temperature Sensor
OEM Part Numbers : C2S44028, C2S 44028
Compatability Chart is for the reference only. It is advisable to chck the existing part Number before placing an order.
Our SKU : TLR001312_105
For the following Cars :
Description ModelYear BodyStyle CC HP KW
Jaguar XF CC9 2.2 D [2008-2015] Saloon 2179 200 147
Jaguar XF CC9 2.2 D [2008-2015] Saloon 2179 163 120
Jaguar XF CC9 2.2 D [2008-2015] Saloon 2179 190 140
Jaguar XF Sportbrake CC9 2.2 D [2012-2014] Estate 2179 163 120
Jaguar XF Sportbrake CC9 2.2 D [2012-2014] Estate 2179 200 147
 
#4 · (Edited)
Just because the opening temperature of a thermostat is 83℃ does not mean that 83℃ is the normal operating temperature. It is far more common for the normal operating temperature to be somewhat above that at which the thermostat opens. However, since Jaguar doesn't think owners of their cars need to know about engine temperature, there is no way of knowing without asking a dealer or specialist.
 
#5 ·
Does your heater blow hot when needed ? If not then tell them , your garage that and ask them to investigate. Nothing worse than a poor heater in the winter months. I haven't checked my car's running temp but the heater usually starts bowing noticeably warm air within a mile of setting off in the winter months and is well not after a couple of miles. My previous car a Volvo did the same but my son's Volvo ,the same model could be driven miles and then only mildly warm air could be felt from the heater. He plugged in an Elm device and that showed a low temp. A new thermostat cured the problem .Don't forget an engine running at low temp will be inefficient and collect condensation in the crankcase causing damage and corrosion to vital engine components.
It's annoying that Jaguar think all of us who drive their products are too thick to care and maintain them and only give needed info to their dealerships who mostly rip us off for basic servicing .
 
#6 ·
OK so a little progress today. After I started it up today I had the bonnet open and felt the inlet hose to the radiator as things warmed up. It remained at ambient temperature right up to the point where my ELM327/Torque app was showing 81C, and then I could feel the hot water circulation starting. So based on Rapala's post and allowing a little leeway, I think my thermostat is OK.
On another forum I see that a possible cause of low operating temperature can be a faulty oil cooling system thermostat, but I'm not even sure where that is never mind how to test it.
Incidentally Phil F, there is no problem with hot air supply - this morning it was a fairly cool 14C and within minutes of setting off I could feel the warm air circulation.
But at least I have eliminated one thermostat - and maybe a bit less for the Jaguar concessionaire to check out.